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I'm ready for tires & rims for my '62 B46 and I'm trying to figure out the rims for the Dayton hubs.

  1. I need six new tires and probably 6 rims too.
  2. It currently has 10.00 x 20 bias ply tube-type tires. The build sheet shows it originally came with 11.00 x 22.5 front & rear.
  3. It looks like I have a combination of three different 2-piece Firestone & Goodyear rims - some rims are 20 x 7.5.
    1. A couple rims are damaged/bent
    2. A couple Firestone rims have non-matching side rings
    3. At least one Goodyear has what looks like an old lock ring
  4. I'll happily replace all the rims if I can figure out what I need
    1. Tubeless or tube-type are acceptable as long they fit my spoke hubs
    2. Accuride catalog shows a lot of stuff, but not enough information to figure out what I need

So, What is available that looks good?

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I've seen two ways to lessen the "unsightly" gap 22.5 rims leave on a Dayton style wheel. One was a ring that snapped over the gap and really looked quite nice. The one I seen on a truck was polished stainless and really carried the appeal and the other was the inner space of this gap powder coated a contrasting color. The one I'd seen was white in this space where the hubs were red, and the rims gray. The hubs were painted but the rims were very nicely powder coated.  The truck was an IH "Westcoaster" long nose. Really went together nicely  but caught my eye because of the Dayton hubs. The truck was originally from Oregon IIRC. 

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22 hours ago, Rob said:

I've seen two ways to lessen the "unsightly" gap 22.5 rims leave on a Dayton style wheel. One was a ring that snapped over the gap and really looked quite nice. The one I seen on a truck was polished stainless and really carried the appeal and the other was the inner space of this gap powder coated a contrasting color. The one I'd seen was white in this space where the hubs were red, and the rims gray. The hubs were painted but the rims were very nicely powder coated.  The truck was an IH "Westcoaster" long nose. Really went together nicely  but caught my eye because of the Dayton hubs. The truck was originally from Oregon IIRC. 

Ummm what gap ?????
Never noticed a gap 

 

Having said that I reckon 22.5's are the way to go, cheap as chips ride better and a lot less flat tyres

Even if you get a slow leak away from home just keep on topping it up with air and you can drive along fine with a tubeless but not a chance on tubed tyre

Oh and the other one from what I hear from the  states is you blokes are having lots of drama finding a tyre service that work on split rims now 


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In between the main body of the rim and the bead seating area. On a tube type wheel the lock ring is there. On a tubeless type there is about a 1" gap. On the drives you don't see it as the gap is to the inside. On the steer axle the gap is facing outward.

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I just got a quote for six wheels/rims (8.25x22.5) and tires (Cooper Roadmaster) for $3100. The wheels/rims are reasonable, but the tires...

I suspect I won't like that gap but...  Any pictures of mounted 22.5's and that gap? And that "fix" to hide the gap. If I didn't know better and have the split rims to compare, would I know the difference?

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You will see it but it's not obnoxious. Look at Freightrain's recent post of painting his wheels. Look at the front rims and compare to your split rims. No photos of the stainless trim rings but I've never seen them anywhere else so may be custom made.

I don't know anyone that has been happy with Cooper Roadmaster tires long term. That is just my observation and I ran Cooper tires on everything for many years.

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Tires are not the way to save money, my opinion. I know it’s hard to justify but it’s according to how much driving you’ll do. New cheap tires don’t seem to last long. At least put some good steer tires on.

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I'm not sure if this helps.

Red hub is 11R22.5 with tubeless rims .  Orange hubs are tube type 10.00 - 20 's

My 2 cents. Everyone is giving good advice . Tubeless is the way to go. They are easier to buy and , a way easier to get someone to work on them. 

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FWIW

If U B runnin Wedge brakes the drum D is 15"

if 'S' Cam brakes the D = 16.1/2: drums

While we were gradually switch n over to tubeless it was not unusual to run tubed tyre 1000x20  next to 11Rx22.5 Tubless

run n az Duels etc

cya

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1 hour ago, keg1 said:

I ran Roadmasters on my flatbed never any problems

I can't say I've ever seen a set on a trailer but they sure don't hold up on a steer axle from several installs I've witnessed. I seen one pair cupped and chunked out so bad at 30K the selling dealer gave 100% refund towards a new set of Bridgestone steer tires. These were 295 R-22.5 tire size. 

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For a hobby truck unloaded personally I don't think you would have an issue with the road masters.   It's not like your going to be running 2,000 miles a week loaded.   Mine run straight and smooth, they are "RM185A" model.     I know a guy that ran them on his covered wagon hauling steel and they lasted 1/2 as long as a $600 name brand tire, but cost 1/2 as much too.  

This is the wrong time of the year but closer to winter you could prob get some used drive tires that someone wants to replace.   They wouldn't be good enough to work with but plenty good for a toy.   

Then again I  think your from Florida so that may not work out at all.  

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46 minutes ago, 85snowdog said:

I'm not sure if this helps.

Red hub is 11R22.5 with tubeless rims .  Orange hubs are tube type 10.00 - 20 's

My 2 cents. Everyone is giving good advice . Tubeless is the way to go. They are easier to buy and , a way easier to get someone to work on them. 

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Good on ya Keith. Old fashioned lead weight static balance, (hard to dynamic those old nylon tires...... Thanks for rounding up the photos. I don't have anything on 22.5" rubber with Dayton hubs. I do have an R model w/24.5" rubber and the gap is the same vs. the 22" rubber they replaced.

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19 hours ago, Rob said:

Good on ya Keith. Old fashioned lead weight static balance, (hard to dynamic those old nylon tires...... Thanks for rounding up the photos. I don't have anything on 22.5" rubber with Dayton hubs. I do have an R model w/24.5" rubber and the gap is the same vs. the 22" rubber they replaced.

I didn't have to go to far to round up pics Rob. I just had to walk out back . lol 

Normally I would take tube tires off and replace with tubeless. But the old international gets about 2 mile /gal . And our gas is about $ 5.25 gal  now. So the ol binder won't be going far . So I left the 10.00 - 20s on . To bad someone wouldn't build an electric truck :whistling:. lol

I didn't get a chance to thank keith s for sharing his build .  

Thanks so much Keith , Its very interesting thread. 

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Okay, tires/wheels/rims look much better than I thought. A picture is worth... well, pictures are free so I guess it's the price of the camera.

I'll stop at the tire/rim shop and order the 22.5 rims and tires.

SnowDog, 2 miles/gal !!! Gallons, not litres.

The cost of that electric Mack is looking better (once it's built). I'm hoping for 140 miles (city driving) for about $5. Probably 70 miles for $5 "cruising". If the battery charge is really low (not a good idea), figure 4+ hours to recharge.

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  • 1 year later...
On 2/11/2020 at 9:21 PM, Donny @ Global Truck said:

I know this is an old posting but, if your still around and looking... I have a bunch of good complete 10-20 tube tires and rims still mounted.

Call me (603)239-7008 

Donny,

A question - don't you have one 7.5x22.5 5 hole stood centerd still wheel? I need it to complete the one in the picture to get a pair. Need it shipped to NJ but that's another story. I was going to visit Global Truck Traders for a while but that turned out a bit long way to North from the area I used to be in. Vlad

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