Popular Post Freightrain Posted March 21, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2016 Well, radiator is hooked up so I fired it off. Still no exhaust, but that is next on the list. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK_Ukv3wr88 Gotta chuckle at the black smoke. I couldn't really razz on it hard as it would blow my drier vent hose off. I know these old motors would block the sun back in the day. 5 Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 the B613's and B61SX's and special orders usually had the bigger radiator like you have. the one that pretty much fills the horse collar. the cheaper smaller radiator was squared off at the top and bottom and not angled like yours to fit the horse collar. dunno really how much more cooling it was but the tanks were def bigger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyGunner Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Sweet video! Truck sounds good. Looks like you did a very nice install. Quote The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by the people who vote for a living.The government can only "give" someone what they first take from another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Love the sound of them early turbos! terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdogtrucker Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 9 hours ago, Maddog13407 said: Hey Maddog Bruno Bartnick is interested in talking to you, believe you have one of his old trucks! shelbart@roadrunner.com. ph. 315-724-4466 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Freightrain Posted March 21, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2016 9 hours ago, Maddog13407 said: the B613's and B61SX's and special orders usually had the bigger radiator like you have. the one that pretty much fills the horse collar. the cheaper smaller radiator was squared off at the top and bottom and not angled like yours to fit the horse collar. dunno really how much more cooling it was but the tanks were def bigger I know it is a very, very tight fit back in that collar. You have to remove the brass drain valve to get it out of there. Too much paint and it won't slide through. I ran it long enough to get the temp gauge to start to rise. Being it was only mid 30's the paper I put in front of the radiator helped. I had fogged the neighbors for long enough and shut it down. 3 Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryS Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Really sounds good. Turbo gets your ear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I agree. sounds like it runs good Larry. and my truck has the bigger radiator. I had to shoehorn It back into the color and you can see where it rubbed originally on the sides and I had to take the draincock out of it to get it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Larry, sure looks and sounds great. You'll be wanting an upgrade on the trans next. LOL I say go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 Well what I've been hearing is that isn't as easy as it seems. Maybe not? Dual disc clutch, deeper bellhousing, change in clutch linkage, etc? I think I'll just let it go for now(and likely for a longgg time). Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted March 26, 2016 Author Share Posted March 26, 2016 WTF......can't I buy V clamp for my exhaust?? No one has a clue along with Mack dealer. Got a wide groove version but it wont grab my downpipe enough. I tried massaging the clamp but I think I will have to add some wire to the pipe side to get it big enough to tighten it. Ugh. Did get the oil changed. 6.5 gal to the full mark. It now pegs the 100# gauge if you give it some throttle when cold. I know it was 60# hot the other night when I got some heat into it, like 160*. 40# at idle hot. She has a pretty good lope when cold. Really rocks the truck. Smoke? It fogs the neighborhood. It does clean up when it warms up some. Did move it a bit back and forth so I know the clutch works. Did get some fab work done on the bunk replacement parts. The lower ledge is built. Now for the corner piece. Get it put in and then a door. 3 wks til I got to leave!! Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) I went looking for some for my Mustang. I called it a Vee Clamp, Gabrielli MACK called it a Groove Loc, Long Island Truck Parts called it a V-Lock clamp. Got them from White Water Marine Supply, used on Hypo boat exhaust. Paul Edited March 26, 2016 by 41chevy 1 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Glad you are making progress! Like the style Paul posted. The joint between the turbo and first pipe should be V clamp Mack #48RU2341. Seems to measure 4" using my calibrated eyeball. Kick your dealer in the volvo. Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZB755V8 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Freightrain said: WTF......can't I buy V clamp for my exhaust?? No one has a clue along with Mack dealer. Got a wide groove version but it wont grab my downpipe enough. I tried massaging the clamp but I think I will have to add some wire to the pipe side to get it big enough to tighten it. Ugh. I was looking for a while for the V-Clamps and Heavy Spring clamps for on turbo hoses. I found them all at www.azsupply.com Don't know why I can't link it. But got 10, 4inch heavy spring clamps for $48.00 with free shipping, made in the USA. Same as Mack at a fraction of the price. Part# B9224-413B. They are made by Breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 WTF......can't I buy V clamp for my exhaust?? No one has a clue along with Mack dealer. Got a wide groove version but it wont grab my downpipe enough. I tried massaging the clamp but I think I will have to add some wire to the pipe side to get it big enough to tighten it. Ugh. Did get the oil changed. 6.5 gal to the full mark. It now pegs the 100# gauge if you give it some throttle when cold. I know it was 60# hot the other night when I got some heat into it, like 160*. 40# at idle hot. She has a pretty good lope when cold. Really rocks the truck. Smoke? It fogs the neighborhood. It does clean up when it warms up some. Did move it a bit back and forth so I know the clutch works. Did get some fab work done on the bunk replacement parts. The lower ledge is built. Now for the corner piece. Get it put in and then a door. 3 wks til I got to leave!! Larry, got the same trouble when I built my new engine for the F. Pegs the oil pressure gauge now. U freaked out when I first started it up, but Mack guys say the ESI E6's get up to 120 PSI. So I'm just looking for a 150 PSI gauge. Mine idles hot around 60 pegs the gauge above 1500 RPM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted March 27, 2016 Author Share Posted March 27, 2016 Well, the first clamp I got from Cross truck was too big(5"), so I returned it for a 4". It is a narrow groove and would not get around the big cast iron pipe. They didn't have a wide version so I went to Mack. They couldn't come up with a real part number(since I didn't serial number from the truck it came from) so he got a few from the back and I picked one. It sorta fits but won't grab the pipe side enough. It might be the downpipe I bought is too small on the clamp area for the clamp to grab it tight. I am going to check the part number I bought and compare Jim's number. All else fails I'm going to just modify the pipe side and make a "spacer" to thicken it up and give the clamp something to hold onto. We'll see. The clamps are made by Breeze that I bought. Glad to hear the oil pressure is not out of line. I don't think I will worry about changing the gauge, yet. Like I said when it warms up it stays around 60# or so when I rev it up. Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 Here is what I bought. Stupid phone has it sideways. I brought the pipe to work. Going to use the new plasma cutter to make a ring to thicken the flange. Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomastractorsvc Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 On 3/26/2016 at 4:37 PM, AZB755V8 said: I was looking for a while for the V-Clamps and Heavy Spring clamps for on turbo hoses. I found them all at www.azsupply.com Don't know why I can't link it. But got 10, 4inch heavy spring clamps for $48.00 with free shipping, made in the USA. Same as Mack at a fraction of the price. Part# B9224-413B. They are made by Breeze. http://catalog.azsupply.com/viewitems/all-categories-clamps-v-band-clamps/v-band-clamp Quote Robert"I reject your reality and substitute my own." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 Thanks Robert for the link. Looking at the dimensions, the one I have is pretty close to what I need. The "C" dimension hits the casting(on the turbo side) before it hits the pipe on the other side. I think the biggest issue is the flange diameter of the pipe I'm using is just small enough that it won't fit up into the V enough to clamp tight. Thus I'm going to thicken the width just about 1/16" to get the clamp to tighten up on it. Going to cut a ring from some sheet metal, just enough to fit the flange area. I looked at BT10494, it is just a touch thinner at the "B" dimension. Not sure if that would help or not? Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted April 1, 2016 Author Share Posted April 1, 2016 I posted a question in the fire apparatus forums and Don stepped up with a VIN number for me. My local Mack dealer had the clamp in stock and my exhaust is now assembled. I can't say enough about the people here. From mass confusion to the right part in a matter of a few hours. Thanks guys Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 Well, all is better........now if I could get that clamp to tighten enough to make it NOT leak. Ugh. I pulled the casting off the engine, used a small hammer to "finesse" the downpipe to fit the taper better. That helped, not totally. Might try some hi temp silicone, as the casting is kinda rough and likely why it leaks. Once I get that done I will get the other fender back on. Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Mack Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 23 hours ago, Freightrain said: Well, all is better........now if I could get that clamp to tighten enough to make it NOT leak. Ugh. I pulled the casting off the engine, used a small hammer to "finesse" the downpipe to fit the taper better. That helped, not totally. Might try some hi temp silicone, as the casting is kinda rough and likely why it leaks. Once I get that done I will get the other fender back on. a tube of "muffler cement".... might be better than the ht silicone? BC Mack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobert62 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 5 hours ago, BC Mack said: a tube of "muffler cement".... might be better than the ht silicone? BC Mack I bought Some at advanced auto parts once that came in a toothpaste tube. It reminded me of jb weld. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpgeneration Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 (edited) R/E Flywheel and crankshaft. · You might want to look into a insert such as a Time Cert I do not know if the web of the crank flange would be deep enough to install them. They are real strong and this would allow you to go back down to the .625 bolt size. Do not get the time cert confused with a Heli coil they have a more robust system, I have used them on different repairs and have had great results. on the other side, if when cut the .750 flywheel bolt hole has sufficient material left and the holes in the flywheel can be bored on the correct bolt circle and finished size that would also work. You might have to ream them to finish size of the bolt shoulder diameter. the fit in that area is critical the flywheel needs the correct fit to the bolt shoulder in addition to correct clamping force to the crank flange.. A local truck machine shop could set it up on a Bridgeport with a rotary table and do the cutting for you. Edited April 5, 2016 by cpgeneration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted April 5, 2016 Author Share Posted April 5, 2016 I am very familiar with thread serts. I like them better then heli coils. There was no enough meat on flange to do that. I just machined the holes to 3/4". Worked well. I work at a machine shop. I did all my own work. The bolts fit snug in the holes. I don't see any reason it won't work fine in my application. Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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