Popular Post 85snowdog Posted March 11, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2024 (edited) Been gone for a while . For some reason the computer wouldn't let me log in. Tried a week ago and hallelujah ! it let me in . My latest project is a 1972 Loadstar 1800. Its extremely heavy duty , and spec'd like no other loadstar we would see in this part of the world. With the extended frame to the front , 10 stud disk wheels ( factory was 9.00 - 20 ) not what's on it now . And factory auto 6 speed trans . Its only got 38,000 miles on it . It has a 392 gas with 7.17 rears . Im sure it won't be very fast , but moving around the yard it feels like it might pull a house down . I'm actually not sure what I'm going to do with it , other than show it off at the odd show. It's in too good of shape to let it get forgot about and possibly go for scrap. Unfortunately , I don't know any history on it . Im currently working on that . I'm thinking it was from the oil fields from western Canada , or something government . They would be the only ones that could buy a truck spec'd like that . A farmer from my part could not afford a truck like this in 1972. I have a question I'm hoping someone can help with. No one I have spoke with knows what the 3rd peddle is . I'm thinking its some type of retarder. not sure though. I'm hoping someone has had some experience with this trans and can tell me how to operate it properly . The 3rd peddle I'm asking about is circled in the pic. It's connected to a valve body on the side of the trans , very close to the trans cooling lines . Thanks in advance Edited March 11, 2024 by 85snowdog added picture 4 Quote Keith Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 A de accelarator pedal perhaps ? Lots of industrial machines have a de accelarator pedal Set the hand throttle and use the pedal to control revs Paul 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/#findComment-547981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted March 11, 2024 Share Posted March 11, 2024 it is a trans retarder. when actuated it will downshift the trans for braking effect. 2 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/#findComment-547982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
70mackMB Posted March 12, 2024 Share Posted March 12, 2024 Nice looking lH. Did that have a pump or winch of some kind on the front of it? .....Hippy 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/#findComment-547990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RoadwayR Posted March 12, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2024 That is a strange Loadstar, seldom seen any that 'heavy'. Did see a few with 6V-53 Detroits, but most Loadstars were medium duty. Looks like that truck has an Allison MT-40, some of those transmissions did have a retard pedal. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/#findComment-547995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBWhite Posted March 12, 2024 Share Posted March 12, 2024 We have a GMC grain truck with a V6 (non running) and an Allison with that 3rd retarder type petal. Not sure mechanically how it works, does it reverse the pump or lock up the converter for engine braking? Could it even work like the early Cats brake saver? I'm guessing something to do with the oilfield the the extended bumper like that, however many of the old trucks around here with automatics worked as mixer trucks in feed-yards or silage cutter operations. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/#findComment-547996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBWhite Posted March 12, 2024 Share Posted March 12, 2024 A quick google search answered my transmission question: https://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/downloads/1965AllisonMTBrochure.pdf Great truck with a great engine, All forged internals! Any idea was the PTO knob on this truck runs/ran? 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/#findComment-547997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
85snowdog Posted March 12, 2024 Author Share Posted March 12, 2024 Thanks everyone for the replies . I knew the knowledge I needed would be here . I always learn more about my internationals here than on an international forum. On 3/12/2024 at 12:07 AM, 70mackMB said: Nice looking lH. Did that have a pump or winch of some kind on the front of it? .....Hippy Expand On 3/12/2024 at 5:19 AM, BOBWhite said: A quick google search answered my transmission question: https://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/downloads/1965AllisonMTBrochure.pdf Great truck with a great engine, All forged internals! Any idea was the PTO knob on this truck runs/ran? Expand Thanks so much for that link BOBWhite. I've been trying to find something like that. Unfortunately my google searches didn't get me anywhere near something like you shared. Thanks again !! The strait frame right out through the grille to the front appears to have held a big winch. You can see something big was bolted there. It looks like the bumper was out even farther but someone has cut it and moved the bumper back in closer to the grille. Theres also evidence of a large gearbox of some type that was mounted to the frame with a driveshaft going to the front of the truck. Its clear to see the spots where there was once hanger bearings . The PTO control on the dash is for a trans mounted PTO. At the moment it runs a shaft drive hydraulic pump. But its clear that's been added after. I think it originally ran a gearbox of some type . Quote Keith Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/#findComment-548002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
67RModel Posted March 12, 2024 Share Posted March 12, 2024 Those frame channels look way bigger than any I have ever seen on a regular loadstar. I always thought they were some of the best styled trucks of the time. That cab and front clip design is timeless. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/#findComment-548003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
70mackMB Posted March 12, 2024 Share Posted March 12, 2024 My first legal driving job with the proper license was in a '68 Loadstar plowing snow for a NH state contractor. lt had "Much l Do" lettered across the top of the grill. .....Hippy 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/#findComment-548006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBWhite Posted March 12, 2024 Share Posted March 12, 2024 On 3/12/2024 at 11:27 AM, 67RModel said: Those frame channels look way bigger than any I have ever seen on a regular loadstar. I always thought they were some of the best styled trucks of the time. That cab and front clip design is timeless. Expand Boy your right about the frame channels! I went and took a pic of another twin screw parked by my house for a size reference and they look about 1/2 the size. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/#findComment-548021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted March 12, 2024 Share Posted March 12, 2024 On 3/12/2024 at 11:27 AM, 67RModel said: Those frame channels look way bigger than any I have ever seen on a regular loadstar. I always thought they were some of the best styled trucks of the time. That cab and front clip design is timeless. Expand That real deep frame is a double frame over the original rail, I have seen that on dump trucks. Terry 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/#findComment-548025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
85snowdog Posted March 12, 2024 Author Share Posted March 12, 2024 On 3/12/2024 at 8:25 PM, BOBWhite said: Boy your right about the frame channels! I went and took a pic of another twin screw parked by my house for a size reference and they look about 1/2 the size. Expand On 3/12/2024 at 11:12 PM, terry said: That real deep frame is a double frame over the original rail, I have seen that on dump trucks. Terry Expand Yes , the frame is like nothing I've seen. Its almost 15 inches deep with a 9 inch frame in behind it . Its double from back to front. 9 inches over the front and rear suspension . The frame rails extend past / through the grill. I haven't been able to find another one like that with google searches . 1 Quote Keith Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/#findComment-548026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted March 12, 2024 Share Posted March 12, 2024 as I read this thread, the more I really like internationals.. Me and my best friend had scouts back in the mid 80's, and I currently own a 48 KB-7, as you may know.. I am really leaning towards wanting more IH's of any kind.. Thanks for the inspiration.. Jojo 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/#findComment-548027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
85snowdog Posted March 12, 2024 Author Share Posted March 12, 2024 On 3/12/2024 at 11:27 PM, Joey Mack said: as I read this thread, the more I really like internationals.. Me and my best friend had scouts back in the mid 80's, and I currently own a 48 KB-7, as you may know.. I am really leaning towards wanting more IH's of any kind.. Thanks for the inspiration.. Jojo Expand My attraction to internationals is because of my father and my very first jobs. I grew up with them . Drove my first Mack in the middle 90's and realized what I had been missing. For reliability , power, and durability I don't think a R model or DM can be beat. I just have a soft spot for my binders . Brings back good memories . 1 Quote Keith Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/#findComment-548028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted March 12, 2024 Share Posted March 12, 2024 I wonder if that was one of those trucks with the giant vacuum cleaner on it. I remember seeing those with some kind of hose reel (?) on the front. Truck looks to be in very good shape. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/#findComment-548029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
85snowdog Posted March 13, 2024 Author Share Posted March 13, 2024 On 3/12/2024 at 11:54 PM, Mark T said: I wonder if that was one of those trucks with the giant vacuum cleaner on it. I remember seeing those with some kind of hose reel (?) on the front. Truck looks to be in very good shape. Expand I think anything could be possible. I have some e-mails out hoping to find some history. 1 Quote Keith Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/#findComment-548032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BOBWhite Posted March 13, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2024 International Harvester was the only company that had a line of equipment that could go from the field to the elevator. A Combine to harvest, a tractor and grain cart to take it away and a truck to haul it into town all built by the same company. Loadstars are really the only grain trucks left in this area with hardly any GM or Fords still around. Our 1969 Loadstar only gets used for filling up the drills now but it wasn't too long ago when that was our only means of getting grain to the elevator. Speaking of scouts; Some IH dealers would throw in a scout for free whenever a farmer bought a top on the line combine or 4WD tractor. Now they only leave you with the phone number of the mobile mechanic and that's it! 3 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/#findComment-548039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
70mackMB Posted March 13, 2024 Share Posted March 13, 2024 Well your in luck to buy a new Scout soon! But you may have to carry an extension cord and generator. .....Hippy https://www.motortrend.com/news/electric-scout-off-road-suv-and-pickup-updates-factory-groundbreaking/ Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/#findComment-548043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
67RModel Posted March 13, 2024 Share Posted March 13, 2024 On 3/12/2024 at 5:12 AM, BOBWhite said: We have a GMC grain truck with a V6 (non running) and an Allison Expand Do you know what cubic inch V6 it has? That engine family is crazy interesting and has a lot of other unique engines based off of it. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/#findComment-548047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBWhite Posted March 13, 2024 Share Posted March 13, 2024 On 3/13/2024 at 3:50 PM, 67RModel said: Do you know what cubic inch V6 it has? That engine family is crazy interesting and has a lot of other unique engines based off of it. Expand I believe it was either the 351 or the 401 but it very well could have been the giant 478. We didn't use it for many years and I don't remember why we parked it. They had a diesel version of them too, my uncle told me that they built the gas motor around the design of the diesel instead of the other way around like the 5.7 Olds. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/#findComment-548049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadwayR Posted March 13, 2024 Share Posted March 13, 2024 Kind of, the GMC V-6 was engineed from the start to be gasoline or diesel. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/#findComment-548052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 66dc75 Posted March 13, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2024 4 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/#findComment-548056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted March 13, 2024 Share Posted March 13, 2024 I saw one with 44,000lb GVW, tandem drive and juice brakes! 392 and stick. Vacuum PDL 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/#findComment-548060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted March 14, 2024 Share Posted March 14, 2024 Excellent I’ve always been a big fan of those. Thousands of Straight trucks back in the day. Thanks for the post. Good luck… bob 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/73953-1972-loadstar-my-love-for-loadstars-continues/#findComment-548076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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