My first B model 1965 b462

[d21smith]

Been wanting this truck for 15 years and finally got it bought.  Im actually the 3rd owner but the 2nd owner never done more than run it in few parades.  Truck has the original sevice manual that it came with new.  I drove it home 74 miles today and didnt skip a beat other than pulling the choke a 1/3 of the way out to run smooth.  I want to remove the mixer bed im NOT  scrapping it i was hoping someone could use it? Im going to fabricate a hitch to pull a gooseneck trailer for shows.  I cant figure out which gas engine it has in it ill post some better pictures tomorrow for some input id like to install a mack diesel engine in it but friend of mine said it was a rare b model and leave it original so i dont know which way to go with it keep original or swap engines?  Has the " baby"18 speed quadruplex truck has 68xxx original miles no rust.  

[Licensed to kill]

That thing is in great shape. Congrats. I just watched a youtube of a "64 B422"??? and it had the same air cleaner as on this truck but recently, I was told here that the "strapless" can was pre '59 and now this is the second truck from the mid 60's to sport one. A bit confusing. 

[Mean Green]

Great looking truck I like the grille that's on it looks diffrent than all the others . diesel would be nice in it I have a converted b 42 that somone did years ago wouldn't go over 45mph rear end was geared too deep you would have to check your rear end ratio

[D2Denny]

Nice score. Looks like a super truck.  My Mack Salesman's book lists a B46S.  It has a EN 401 Magnadyne engine (flathead 6) with a SWD 56 bogie. This model aimed at the dumper/mixer market. Looks like the highest ratio for this set up is a 6.45, so even with the .85 ratio in high split with the TRQ 77 (baby quad) you wont have much road speed. I had a B42T with the same engine and trans and it ran super. It was a single axle and I swapped in a higher ratio carrier and was able to run 65 with ease. I too thought about swapping in a diesel but the truck was too nice to alter.

[Bullheaded]

Very nice, though I'm kinda sad to see you remove the mixer body. I would keep it all original as is.

But it's your money.

Edited November 21, 2021 by Bullheaded

[D2Denny]

Looked your truck up. Made from 1960 to 1965. 110 total produced.  On the rears the ratios only get worse, 7's, 8's, and 9',s.

I was wrong on the engine. Looking at your photos you have the Thermodyne gas engine. Either the EN438  160 HP  or the EN464B at 170 HP.

[Mike Harbison]

5 hours ago, Licensed to kill said:

That thing is in great shape. Congrats. I just watched a youtube of a "64 B422"??? and it had the same air cleaner as on this truck but recently, I was told here that the "strapless" can was pre '59 and now this is the second truck from the mid 60's to sport one. A bit confusing. 

Whoever told you those air cleaners were pre 59 was misinformed. 

[Vladislav]

Great looking truck for sure! And definitely rare spec. Congratulations on the purchase!

To me it seems of no much reason to remove the mixer setup since it's already restored and looks nice. The same opinion on the engine swap. What you currently have is OHV Thermodyne Mack gasser which is quite powerful and reliable. I don't say it has pretty fuel milage but using the truck for attending shows the cost of about any seriouse conversion would never offset the economy achieved. And if you want to tow a trailer and have a diesel seems easier to just buy one more B61 already a tractor. Sure the points are just my opinion and you will choose your way to go and enjoy. A bit of advice is not to start from the mixer unit remove and so on but fixing small things over the truck keeping it the way it is and running. So you would be able to drive it for a bit and get some fun and also achieve much more info and experience to consider its further faith.

Vlad

[Frank Y]

11 hours ago, Bullheaded said:

Very nice, though I'm kinda sad to see you remove the mixer body. I would keep it all original as is.

But it's your money.

Agreed.

[Licensed to kill]

7 hours ago, Mike Harbison said:

Whoever told you those air cleaners were pre 59 was misinformed. 

I may have misunderstood what I was told. Wouldn't be the fist time. Thanks. 

[mowerman]

wow,,,,that sucker is tight man....no those gas jobs sound real good leave it alone..haha everyone wants a diesel but if its all in good running condition and low miles i would leave it alone.....have a ball....i would love to take that mixer off your hands but im way too far away.....my DM would look complete with it....bob

[mowerman]

also welcome aboard...bob

[Vladislav]

Does that B-model have a short hood the same as B-67 has? Definitely looks shorter than a B-61.

[Licensed to kill]

32 minutes ago, Vladislav said:

Does that B-model have a short hood the same as B-67 has? Definitely looks shorter than a B-61.

You are correct. I thought something looked different but couldn't;t put my finger on it. Thought it was the mixer that made it look different but the hood is definitely shorter. Good eye.

[mowerman]

Probably because that’s all  the gas job needs I guess I am sure of that Truck is going to turn a lot of heads  even  with that engine ..: bob

[mowerman]

I looked at a B Model years ago with a gas job I don’t remember the hood being that short… bob

[Mark T]

I think maybe we need more pictures of that truck. Some from under the hood, couple of the inside, maybe a few from underneath 

[mowerman]

Thought I would add one more thing captain crunch runs a gas engine and his fire engine and he really likes it also yes more photos please … bob

[d21smith]

I would trade this truck for another b model semi or single axle to pull my gooseneck trailer with so this one could stay together id want 1 in comparable condition 

[mowerman]

Yes almost sounds like you’d be better off looking for something else there are lots of them around

[yarnall]

Nice truck.  Yes.  It has a short hood like a B67.  My father has a B46 tractor.  I think it has an EN464 in it. 
i agree with Vlad.  It would be great if you left the truck intact.  There are very few B model mixers in existence.  It would be a shame to take this one apart. There are dozens of B61 tractors for sale.   Sell this and buy one of them or keep this and buy another.  
Your truck, but it would be a real shame to take it apart.   Mike. 

[Brocky]

I agree with Michael!!  Keep it intact!!

[67RModel]

I would have to agree with the others on here. This truck is too nice of an example to disassemble. Especially since its a rare model to begin with with only 110 ever being produced. I cant even remember the last time I saw a B model mixer and never in this nice of original condition. They way things seem to be anymore original condition trucks like this seem to bring crazy money from collectors when consigned at reputable auction houses. I would clean and polish this truck up as best you could take about 150 pictures of it and consign it with Mecum auctions or similar. You will most likely end up with enough cash to buy two of what you actually want. Just my opinion though.

[Freightrain]

It will take finesse to get a diesel in there.  They lay over pretty good to clear the doghouse in a short hood.  Not very condusive to being worked on either.

Great find, but along with others it will take a lot of changes to make it user friendly for your purpose.  You might as well start with a better candidate.

 

[Brocky]

That is a great looking original truck.. Before you go the Auction route I would contact Dave Coutu at the Keystone Museum, Colonial Heights VA, to see if they might be interested in it???? Many of us know him as he is the man who takes all their equipment to shows and is on this site once in a while as user: Maint1.. He might even know of a suitable B model tractor available to replace the mixer??