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I moved the front walking beam frame mount into the rear mount and the new rail was welded to the end of the stock chassis.   I bolted the main crossmember the used that as a guide for me to drill remaining holes.  Sunbelt rentals has mag drills and I bought rotabroaches from Blair equipment.  All edges where beveled and slowly welded. The seam is dead center under the rear chassis beam mount.  I notched the frame spacers underneath the hat and welded in a big gusset. Also welded a small gusset in the notch under the chassis flange. Easier to say than type.  In hindsight it may have been wiser to split the rail more toward the center of that massive crossmember.  I'm thinking that between the 9 bolts on each side, all the weld and the gussets it should be good. The truck does not pull a trailer it's just for show.

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The fello that I purchased this from, if memory is correct said that he took it on a trade from a guy in ct. I found lots of paperwork in the cab from Ryder truck rental for this vehicle.  Do you know if anyone from aiudi and sons is still alive?  I could not find any info on the co.

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1 hour ago, Coenut said:

The fello that I purchased this from, if memory is correct said that he took it on a trade from a guy in ct. I found lots of paperwork in the cab from Ryder truck rental for this vehicle.  Do you know if anyone from aiudi and sons is still alive?  I could not find any info on the co.

I'll look around. They have a yard in town on RT 71 with a few pieces of equipment still in it, there's a Ford compressor truck for sale here also. A steel nose R dump that's also still in use. The Company garage was razed recently to expand the rail station.

Are you looking to contact them? I'll see what I can find out.

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On 29.11.2016 at 5:26 AM, Coenut said:

I moved the front walking beam frame mount into the rear mount and the new rail was welded to the end of the stock chassis.   I bolted the main crossmember the used that as a guide for me to drill remaining holes.  Sunbelt rentals has mag drills and I bought rotabroaches from Blair equipment.  All edges where beveled and slowly welded. The seam is dead center under the rear chassis beam mount.  I notched the frame spacers underneath the hat and welded in a big gusset. Also welded a small gusset in the notch under the chassis flange. Easier to say than type.  In hindsight it may have been wiser to split the rail more toward the center of that massive crossmember.  I'm thinking that between the 9 bolts on each side, all the weld and the gussets it should be good. The truck does not pull a trailer it's just for show.

Thank you for explaining the things. I suppose you will have no troubles with the stretch the way you have it done. Especially in case no trailer will be attached.

I'm just tinkering with ideas on how to fix the frame of my R-model. The one I'd like to use has massive damage to the both reails because of the excident in the past. Poor shape with lots of weld and either cracks repaired. One of the options is to fabricate two pieces of new rail locally and weld them to the original front. Nobody can make totally new rails front to end but pieces of a straight channel are possible. This way I will need to put the halves together under the sleeper. Not sure it's a good idea, especially if I grind all excessive metal off the seams as I want to to get the look untouched.

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Vlad,  

How about a sleeve on the inside of frame rail to help support the two halves?  Bolt it in between two crossmembers, that way the inner rail butts up against the crossmembers and is less noticeable with the bunk over top of it.

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On 30.11.2016 at 11:02 PM, Freightrain said:

Vlad,  

How about a sleeve on the inside of frame rail to help support the two halves?  Bolt it in between two crossmembers, that way the inner rail butts up against the crossmembers and is less noticeable with the bunk over top of it.

Larry,

It could be done. And should be if I would. But no space to make it long enough. Something like 30 cm or one foot long. Could be positioned between two crossmembers only since their flanges attached straight to the rails. I would prefere use longer ones and put them between the crossmember ends and the rails if any spacers in those spots originally used. But no spacers. And if I use them short inner rails only four bolts will attach them to every rail. Two bolts on each end. There's a tank mounting bracket on the outer side. Uses 4 bolts. On each side of the truck. A good thing to cover the seam from observation either.

Actually this plan is just one of the possible options. The frame I plan to use have VIN stamped and I have this truck registered. The second truck has relatively solid frame and with no VIN marking. Although it could be used it also need some fixing of cracks in the airride brackets attaching areas. And another thing I really dislike is a need to completely part out the secong truck which runs now.

The most reliable option is to order two brand new rails. Just have no idea of how it might be costy to purchase or fabricate. Shipping sure would be a story either. But I'd like to at least estimate that case. I have time to choose so far.    

Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012

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Ya, one foot sleeve isn't much.  Didn't realize you were that constrained with space between crossmembers.   If you didn't want to uses spacers, then you could narrow the crossmember?  I've seen where guys have cut out of the middle and welded them back together(stamped steel crossmember).  I could see them put on a mill and run a 1/2"-5/8" end mill(whatever it took for twice the frame rail thickness) to divide them.  Bevel the ends and clamp to a table and weld back together.  Grind it and Presto a custom crossmember that would allow a sleeve to fit!

Depends on how sneaky you want to get to save the big cost of complete new rails.

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