Jump to content
bulldogfarmer

Anyone doing full deletes on MP8s yet??

Recommended Posts

Hey everyone, long time lurker here just reading posts. After todays issues I figured I'd better post. 

Have 3 MP8s, 2 are '08s and 1 '11. They each get about 35-40k mIles a year

Middle of harvest here and there's been one in the shop constantly. One gets fixed, another goes in. Got so bad I bought a CH off a local auction last week for a spare and it hasn't missed a day since. Somewhere north of $15k has been spent at the Mack dealer in the last month- every penny fixing emissions BS. 

My question is, is there ANYONE doing full deletes on these trucks like they can on the Big 3 engines?? Ones I've found run an emulator which isn't a route I care to go since the emissions system has to be in tact. These trucks are about to go on the end of the road with a for sale sign on them if they keep it up. 

Feel free to PM me if you don't want to post on the open forum. Thanks a bunch.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Is the '11 any more reliable than the '08s? The '07-'09s were sort of particulate filter 1.0 and had a lot of problems, I wouldn't buy one.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So I posted this about a year ago and still havent got an answer.  Tried truckecmtunes and couldnt get an answer out of them. So far $19,700 has been forked out to the dealers fixing emissions BS since November and have two trucks about to go in again while we're in the middle of harvest. Why can you get an answer anywhere for Cat, Cummins, and Detroit but Mack and Vovlo are so hush-hush? Im about ready to find trucks with a different emblem on the front.

Anyone have an answer if I can delete? PM me if need be. Thanks

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You can try OTR performance see if they have anything. Just did my 07 aset with them.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Someone has to pay 💰 for the green movements fantasy ..... unfortunitely.  If you want to beat the system bad enough you will. Still a lot of good tier 3 and older out there. 

 

Edited by Mack Technician
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The way we are thinking of handling this situation is by purchasing Pete gliders with Detroits in them. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I just Googled mp8 emissions delete and all kinds of products came up. Maybe not really work ??

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

We had a customer take his 2011 MP8 up somewhere in Illinois And get the full delete done , I think it was around $3000. They said at the time they could only do the non-OBD trucks, which means only trucks with the 9 pin diagnostic plug. Not the rectangle OBD plug. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 hours ago, 2000CL713 said:

Why detroits when a CAT 6nz is sooo much nicer ;)

Bad enough to walk away from Bulldogs, insult to injury to run Cats. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, Mackpro said:

We had a customer take his 2011 MP8 up somewhere in Illinois And get the full delete done , I think it was around $3000. They said at the time they could only do the non-OBD trucks, which means only trucks with the 9 pin diagnostic plug. Not the rectangle OBD plug. 

Ya it will be interesting to c how the hackers do with the newer stuff m drive and the like!  Very complex and intertwined abs stability control avoidance control bla bla !

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, storkmack said:

Bad enough to walk away from Bulldogs, insult to injury to run Cats. 

hahaha true!

if i ever were to get rid of my bulldog which will never happen it would be for a pete with a 6nz with a few upgrades done to the motor. iv had 3 macks (2001-CL713/2005-CV713/2000-CL713) and they have all treated me well. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yeah them Cats are great, buddy in Texas just spent 32k for inframe plus the turbos some place else, so now he is out like 35k and the oil field slows down.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think the EPA has started limiting the number of glider kits that are completed at places like Fitzgerald's. There was a big article about it earlier in the year. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Few months back I heard Fitzgerald's does some shit work sometimes. I never saw one of there trucks up close or drove one but everything from parts falling off and people needing there motors replaced 3 times. Them not fixing stuff. Whoever goes down that road may want to do your homework on who you pick. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

limit is 300 trucks a year  Fitzgerald is building 500 hybrid hydrogen  fuel cell trucks for US Express  actually Ryder owns the trucks they are just Leasing them

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, 2000CL713 said:

hahaha true!

if i ever were to get rid of my bulldog which will never happen it would be for a pete with a 6nz with a few upgrades done to the motor. iv had 3 macks (2001-CL713/2005-CV713/2000-CL713) and they have all treated me well. 

Dad started with a 79' F model in 1986 and with the exception of a few off brands we have always ran Macks.   If there was a Mack glider kit availed that is where we would be at.  You can't spend $130K on a truck that WILL go down and be in the shop not making revenue.   Bad freight rates, rising  insurance cost, and government regulation  just make it not work with trucks that don't RUN.   Series 60 Detroits with Allisons here, set up so a driver can't kill them is the route we are looking at. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 hours ago, james j neiweem said:

Stork. End of the line for Macks?

Looks like it here,   My brother and I were the holds out for Mack, but the dealers in our area have killed our Mack spirit.  

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
20 minutes ago, storkmack said:

Dad started with a 79' F model in 1986 and with the exception of a few off brands we have always ran Macks.   If there was a Mack glider kit availed that is where we would be at.  You can't spend $130K on a truck that WILL go down and be in the shop not making revenue.   Bad freight rates, rising  insurance cost, and government regulation  just make it not work with trucks that don't RUN.   Series 60 Detroits with Allisons here, set up so a driver can't kill them is the route we are looking at. 

Nothing wrong with that. Every make has a parts department for a reason. Each can break and have broken. As for me no Detroits if I was in that sitation. But that's me. My 05 had a Allison 6spd auto. Was very nice. Wish I could but an auto in my CL lol 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Welcome to BMT!

...The world's best antique, classic & modern Mack Truck support forum! Founded in 2000, BigMackTrucks.com is the place to go for everything related to Mack Trucks!

BMT!

BigMackTrucks.com is owned and operated by Watt's Truck Center, New Alexandria, PA. This forum and it's contents are not affiliated with Mack Trucks, Inc. or Volvo Trucks North America.

×