james j neiweem

Would be interesting to know what was behind the business side of Copar. Their rise and fall was pretty fast.

blackdog I saw a funny thing on I95 in ct. 4 copar Mack triaxles with no copar markings or numbers. Have they been sold

Wow a little bit of every thing in that rig. Volvo, Dana, Hendrickson, Allison, Kessler. Never heard of Kessler

Supposedly O and G has a couple of Cats. I heard they were gifts. Used to be an all Mack fleet then ford and sterling snuck in. Now kenworth. Don't think they bought new Mack in about 20 years. Never saw them with any Cl's or Granites. They had plenty of DM's and R's maybe some RD's. Some of their old Macks are still operational.

Is that there only R model left.I think they still have some CL's and some early white Granites(bought used I think)

New Member 1 Posts Posted - 09/11/2011 : 07:36:19 AM From time to time the old UPS questions are raised. I've never seen before how such little information can be turned into a big mess. I work for UPS. I've been to multiple facilities in different states. So in a way I'm saying, I know a little about UPS. The first thing all you non-UPSers need to know is that UPS puts profit and the bottom line above ALL else. Above ALL else. We use trucks (tractors and package caers) from various manufacturers. We pretty much put our equipment requirements out there, and whomever can meet those spec's with the best price wins. Package cars chasis's can be Fords, Chevy's Internationals etc. Grunmann does alot of the bodies, but there are others. Tractors can be Macks, Sterlings Internationals, Frieghtliners, etc. You are not likely to see Western Star, Peterbilt nor KW's in our tractor fleet. Why? My guess is they can't produce such a bare-bones truck. All UPS trucks/package cars are bare-bones. No frills. Every extra dollar spent on one truck is multiplied by the thousands of trucks. UPS puts the bottom line above all else. These are work trucks. The comfort of the driver is only matched to DOT, Union contract and other applicacable Federal regulations. Now to get back on point a little. Hood ornaments have a cost. A very real cost when an order for say 500 trucks is placed. If a manufacturer places a cost of $3.35 for a tin plate emblem/logo, UPS knows it can save $3.35 (or whatever that cost is)x 500 =$1675.00 by not having the logo added. So why then does Mack get special treatment? They don't. Mack was just smart enough to make their hood ornament the hood "handle" by which you use to pull open the hood (cowl). Many of the other manufacturers like International, Sterling etc have a handhold cut or recessed in to the hood (cowl). So by default (it's a needed handhold), the Bulldog has to stay. Now to clean up some other miss information I've seen in this thread. I don't know how 9/11 got in to this discussion. But UPS 'crushes' cars when they are done with them. Either thru use or accident. When UPS is finished with a vehicle, one of the first things the mechanics do is strip various parts they know they can use at their respective facilities. The vehicle is then sent to a facility that may or may not recycle additional parts. Finally the vehicle is 'scrapped'. With respect to the package cars, there is a lot of aluminum in those things. Vehicles are scrapped when the cost of keeping them on the road becomes excessive, or when safety is compromised. (However up in NY some package cars were run on old rusted frames beyond safety standards) UPS puts the bottom line above all else. There's no "special" reason for why we use the trucks/package cars we use other than the cost to functionality analysis.. There's no 9/11 reason for how we dispose of old worn out vehicles. We have been doing it the same way for decades. Why do we cover up the UPS logo? We're just funny that way. We take our company, and our logo seriously. That's why the 'King of Queens' didn't get permission to use it. Next time you see a Fed Ex commercial, watch how they have that "we can laugh at ourselves quality". At UPS we don't laugh at ourselves. We're too busy busting ass. In the coming years your heads will really start to spin. As a major player in the transportation industry UPS has already begun to diversify even further the manufacturer pool of vehicles as we seek better fuel economy and alternative fuel vehicles. I hope this reply has removed some of the perceived mystery.

Bad Dog you beat me to the punch. Nice so work so far.

What kind of suspension is on that yellow granite.

Put that IH rear out in the cornfield

I'll bet Vinny is hiding it somewhere

Me either

They just don't promote it on the web site. Truck specs have been dropped and replaced by a sales brochure except for the Titan. It must be a Volvo thing as their web site is void of spec sheets also as I remember,

just wondering why they put a 237 in a long hood. Seems like that would have been a 325 v8/318 Detroit or a 335 cummins,

Bulldog magazine has disappeared along with the camel back suspension and truck model specification sheets (except for the Titan)

What ever happened to the stainless steel Autocar?

That truck is good for a lifetime.

Nice G model

Yes Sir

What are you asking for Mater?

U.S. sales of medium- and heavy-duty trucks rose 15.7% in July compared with year-ago, as deliveries hit 35,966 units, WardsAuto data shows. In Class 8, nearly all brands enjoyed double-digit gains as sales jumped 17.8% to 18,793 units, compared with 15,340 year-ago. Mack led all brands, posting a 45.2% gain and increasing its share to 10.0% from 8.1% in prior-year. PACCAR’s Kenworth and Peterbilt brands also posted solid gains of 23.9% and 17.2%, respectively. Segment leader

Those split manifolds gave a nice deep roar very similar to the White gas engines

VW with an American drive line. Very interesting how every manufactured item is so intertwined. Does Scannia offer any American components? I noticed that Volvo penta has a large V-8 gas engine line up. Why not bring back the E-9 marine engine and compete with Scannia?

From the H. Transcon U-models were ex Wilson tractors after they went bankrupt. The tandems were powered with Cummins VT-903's. Not sure about the single axles. I think Wilson bought about 400 U models. It seems that there last purchases were S model IH's. They bought white road bosses after the COE freightliners.

I remember Trans-Con had tons of Blue Freightliner COE's. Never knew they had Macks

Thanks. Thats the one.