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Couple of things! Your going to have to pull the heads anyway! I kind of think you may have the wrong fire rings having said that if the engine has had new liners installed at some point the rings will be wrong for sure, one or more has come dislodged while asembling Or as I stated the fire rings came doubled up in the package one mre thought is were never removed from the get go from the liners the first time!?

Why did he pull the heads to do the cam? Where exsactly is the coolant coming from! between the heads .the sides rear. 16 - 20 hours to do a cam job in the back yard is more than enough time weeks of time is rediculus! i have see the gasket come packaged accidently with an extra fire ring! Also in that era there where two diffrent style fire rings for two diffrent style liners!are you sure you got the corect ones

Its been my observation that your better off to replace with a used leaf rather than new unless your replacing the stack. IF you can find one.

Yup! Herd we might be getting it soon just roumors thou. They better get it here fast the big logs are almost all gone!

I beleive if they could have ,they would have!But that would have opened them up to law suits!Too many just mack dealers! If you had the volvo and the mack line you would have to keep your trap shut!But if you had Just the MacK line then you would have lots of amo!They will likly starve the dealers for parts and do other things to make it not worth while to be a macK Dealer!They will get it done!

Yup By pass the trans cooler for now Change out the oil in the trans .run it for a day change out the oil in the trans once more install a new cooler or just leave it disconected!

injectors, pump, and turbo between the 400, 440, 450, and 500. Correct! There were some liner oring diffences on newer blocks.

I have to agree with this!Staying with the fuller would be likly alot less costly time and price wise! the 8 trans housing would likly fit the 18.

I have seen the tps cause power problems with out throwing codes but its very unlikly!

Yup like i said the short list!The trans housing for the mack and I beleive some older western stars also mount the same as the mack However the clutch arm is always beneth on a mack!

If you have the time to be down have your heads rebuilt by a reputable machine shop! Down side to that is mack heads have a one year warrenty I believe. Trans!Heres the short list , u need to replace the stick and air line stuff and the Mounts and clutch arm are another concern! A lot of little stuff to think on!

I will say this one more time!!! THE TURBO CAN COME OUT OF TUNE and Will not throw a code Have it recalibrated and make sure its going full stroke!Have em watch the lever and push it full stroke if need be!The computer remebers the stroke in the recal sequence.Have em use the advance display in the vmac 4 program and make sure the egr flow and turbo are reaching their targets! The two wire plug you speak of throws a 270 code if faulty (compressor discharge temp code.)

Go to a dealer have em recalibrate the VGturbo and clean out the egr cooler if its not been done latly! see if that will help!

Do you have two sticks Or air shift for deep reduction? The front section can pop out of gear if its air shift and you won't be able to tell!The shift fork is likly worn! the trans has to come out to repair this !I would pull the drain plug and see if you got any peices coming out , ball bearings are the most common failure on a 12 sp

Just proove out what and if you have a problem !Disconect the line to the bimboe on the fuel pump cap it off and run it with a load and see if you power is better on hills if so the reversing relay for the puff limit is likly fubared! The limiter may be working but incorrectly

Get on It Pal!The early bird gets the worm!

If its not going into the pan then its gong out the exhast or into the trans oil thru the trans oil cooler! odviously you preasure checked the system for External leaks?Checked the trany latly? Low liners is another comon thing in that era.Liners were set at low spec (19 thou) alot of the time low spec is to low as time has shown.460 HP engines had more problems with this than the lower HP engines!High spec is 29 thou! Alot of diffrence!

And stop full off!

COOL! Good find Monty What I liked about the challanger was it was mechanic friendly ! the hood fliped straight up out of the way not butterfly like the mack and hayes and pacific! the engine was on a crate inside the frame on the first model and the engine and trans could be pulled as a lump out the front on its own engine stand so to speak.John was sort of a Wrench him self so he new the things needed to service properly.

There aint nothin left on the thing thats mack now anyway No one would want it! the only thing on the truck now that is truly mack is the cab + Hood!You can still get the diffs and trans but for how long who knows.The hydralic clutch linkage to be added shortly is next!We still got a cable something that works and is adjustable ,We can't have that!

Your welcome and yes the favorite engine was 12 71, I had the opertunity to do a V8 transplant on one of these made it a ture mack e9 and a 12 sp all but maybe 2 were born with 12s the others had KT cummins special order ,husby forest still runs some now with I beleive ser 60 repowers. Our shop handled or pdied most of these units there where a large amount of updates to do before they were put to work We modified fuel tanks, planitarys had a few glitches and the mack wheel lock was disposed of for a more tire man friendly setup.there where a bunch more tidleeys done to many to list! All In All second only to the challenger It was the best of the fat trucks! The guy that built th challenger was rumored to have sold the company and plans to the ausies for an ore hauler!They even hired his engineer. Rumors rumors!

Anyway I made this coment in Barrys good or bad for mack pole last year I must be a fortune teller! I know this is a bit late and an old post but ,I have to say that the Volvo engine does look to be a decent power plant Mack guy!THIS IS THE ONLY UPSIDE TO MY COMENTS. Having said that MackGuy ,I have worked, on , for and around Mack trucks for most of my working life 30 years OR SO ,as well as the volvo stuff fords kw PETES and the rest to some degree!The truck we sell now is a Volvo with a mack cab! DON'T KID US, THE volvo people have KEPT NONE, of the Good mack IDEAS ,NOT ONE! THE dog on the hood and the cab is all thats left.You take the cab off the frame its a volvo frame ,engine and abunch of jobber parts. SORRY its for the most part the truth I was once a proud mack guy now I work on Volvo stuff ,I have less kinder words for it but won't use it here!These Guys could have at least kept some of the simple Ideas and used them`NOT ONE did they keep! SO FAR ONLY THING I SEE that I MILDLY like is the engine IMPRESS me with some good old simple MACK stuff ont the rest of the truck ! Mack diffs mack trans mack built tough frames suspention yada yada! Sorry had to rant! The cab and hood were all thats left in that post! The volvo cab is next the hood to follow!The dog will stay on the hood with a slash thru the grille then they will shoot the dog! Sven will now be happy the dog is dead! You have now been asimulated By Sven and Olley The estamated time of life for the dog on the hood you ask? 2015 a normal dogs life 10-15 years Sven and Olley will have owned the dog for 14. Yes the Mack will soon be just another model of Volvo just like Autocar and rest! 3p I hope they keep the mack guys and give some of the volvo dudes the boot but I highly doubt it!

? one! Built BY mack! not by someone else. Rumor had it that the engineer that desgined the hayes hdx quit over some argument with managment at hayes and was hired by Mack to redesign a logger for em! that is what he came up with. All but about half a dozen came to Vancouver Island to live!The red and white cabs M+B bought 12 the rest were sold to several smaller independants Husby forest products had 6 or so and still run several!Most of them Have gone to the bone yard as the fat truck era is about over now. Too expensive to repair the diffs in these units!They Are Mack planetary diffs a breed of their own. a run of approx 28 trucks!The cab was swiped from an earlier designed ore truck I beleive and modified to fit the cL. The Challenger truck Was built by A local Guy that Loved Fat trucks And got sold On the V8 after He had removed a buzzin dozen from one of his trucks and replaced it with an E9 and found he almost could pay for a V8 repower of a truck in a year in fuel savings and with almost half again the horsepower. He built Half a dosen trucks before the logging tiped over The only draw back to the engine was the engine brake!What goes up must come down!If you were to see where some of these went up YOU would not like the down part! Most of these guys had the gutts of Dick tracy!

Trent the governer levers inside the pump differ!The pump was basicly the same except for this cam and engine parts were the same turbo was lkly diffrent.

Cool you been there to!We had our local pump guy come over and bring his plunger tool over and he reset it with that after we got it to the shop it was in a remote location at the time and had very little for toolage, He said i was off by only 2 degrees not bad for a shot in the dark! i was kind a strutin about over that one!Ya get lucky some times so ya got to make hay while the sun shines!To bad it don't happen more often. Glad Tony Came back At the garage!They would hav lost a true talent had he stayed away