Geoff Weeks Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 5 hours ago, Freightrain said: Only heard of people having issues, but never dealt with it myself. Lucky?? I doubt you are running the stock gauges on your race car, so you wouldn't be using one, unless for fuel, but that would be a cell no? They worked fairly well but were a known weak point. Early King Seeley gauges had that part in the sender itself and those senders are hard to come by now. I don't know when Ford and Chry phased out the K-S gauges early 80's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Actually the wagon has a alum cell my friend made for it, I installed an aftermarket sending unit for a Ford gauge so it reads properly in the stock dash. Since the cell is under the car I can't just see in the top, it also fills from the stock filler cap on the side of the car. If the cell was in the back of the car, I would have to have a panel made to divide it from the passenger compartment for fire safety. I didn't want to deal with that. The cell is narrow to clear the wheelie bars. 1 Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Freightrain Posted April 23 Popular Post Share Posted April 23 2 hours ago, The Rubber Duck 006 said: No that's what you call having parts built to last and work for a long time lol Plus I know how to work on things without butchering them. Thus my wire harnesses are all nice and fully functional in all my vehicles. 5 Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rubber Duck 006 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 49 minutes ago, Freightrain said: Plus I know how to work on things without butchering them. Thus my wire harnesses are all nice and fully functional in all my That's a big plus....I'm the same way....as Lynrd Skynrd Said "I know little....Baby we can guess The rest" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mechohaulic Posted April 23 Popular Post Share Posted April 23 16 minutes ago, The Rubber Duck 006 said: That's a big plus....I'm the same way....as Lynrd Skynrd Said "I know little....Baby we can guess The rest" from reading the forums here ' that sentence seems to be the way of the dealer mechanics today at $150-200 per hr. they know little but guess and just change parts till problem fixed or at least a little better. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Rubber Duck 006 Posted April 23 Popular Post Share Posted April 23 32 minutes ago, mechohaulic said: from reading the forums here ' that sentence seems to be the way of the dealer mechanics today at $150-200 per hr. they know little but guess and just change parts till problem fixed or at least a little better. Yes Sir that is true. I was blessed to grow up with a Grandfather that was a mechanic and what he didn't know he read about and passed his knowledge on to me. Most of what I know on these big trucks I've learned by experience or asked. That quote for me is more a joke than anything. I usually say it after I've figured something out and fixed it right or helped a friend out fixing their stuff. It's also more of a " I don't claim to know it all or be a professional" kinda thing as well. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I’ve been out there 49 years and still have an open ear…. Unfortunately at this point I’m usually smarter than the 65 drivers around me… bob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 $225 per hour here in jersey. and if the computer can not tell them what is wrong, they can not fix it. 2 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 On 4/23/2024 at 1:45 AM, other dog said: I'm going out there and try to see what I can see on the carburetor but I'm waiting for it to warm up a little. We had frost here this morning and it's only up to the lower 50's now. I'm going to try to take that pressure regulator off and look at it. I won't know what I'm looking at, but I'll look. The gas had to go through 3 filters before it got that far but that doesn't mean much, it was still running on that crappy gas when it was running. It has the in-line filter, a little canister type filter, then the electric fuel pump has a filter in it too. What's the current state of affairs with the new ride Any luck yet ?? Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mowerman Posted April 24 Popular Post Share Posted April 24 2 hours ago, tjc transport said: $225 per hour here in jersey. and if the computer can not tell them what is wrong, they can not fix it. My god that’s just insane… but that’s the way they design them these days. Nothing seems to wear out inside main driveline . Anymore …..just All add on China accessories that shut everything down …get rid of all that ,,,,,and we would be saving everyone’s time and money… lol bob 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post other dog Posted April 25 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 25 On 4/23/2024 at 6:57 PM, mechohaulic said: from reading the forums here ' that sentence seems to be the way of the dealer mechanics today at $150-200 per hr. they know little but guess and just change parts till problem fixed or at least a little better. You got that right! Reminds me of the time I took a Dodge pickup I had to a little garage in Concord for something. The man said "I can't work on that, it's got a carburetor and I don't work on anything that old". It was a '91 model I think, which to me is not "that old". And it didn't have a carburetor, it had the throttle body injection. What he was REALLY saying was " if I can't just plug a computer into it and let it tell me what the issue is I can't work on it". 3 2 1 1 Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted April 25 Author Share Posted April 25 On 4/24/2024 at 5:02 AM, mrsmackpaul said: What's the current state of affairs with the new ride Any luck yet ?? Paul I took the carburetor off and cleaned it as best I could, it will run but only with the choke mostly closed, the next thing I'm going to check is the vacuum in the distributor. It acts like it has a vacuum leak but I couldn't find any, and that's the only thing I haven't checked yet. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 I use carb cleaner or brake cleaner to check for vacuum leaks. Spray round carb base, carb gaskets, and intake and listen for change in idle. Also can't hurt to spray vacuum hoses either 1 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rubber Duck 006 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 2 hours ago, other dog said: You got that right! Reminds me of the time I took a Dodge pickup I had to a little garage in Concord for something. The man said "I can't work on that, it's got a carburetor and I don't work on anything that old". It was a '91 model I think, which to me is not "that old". And it didn't have a carburetor, it had the throttle body injection. What he was REALLY saying was " if I can't just plug a computer into it and let it tell me what the issue is I can't work on it". And here I am at 36 and hate working on or attempting to work on vehicles that don't have a Carb or throttle body injection. 🤔 that's why I own a 1976 Chevrolet Cheyenne C20 I can work on it myself 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tjc transport Posted April 25 Popular Post Share Posted April 25 Same here. I drive a 2018 exploder, but it is still under warranty for another 40k miles or 4 years. The two other cars and 2 of the trucks are over 45 years old, and the other two are diesels. 3 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 3 hours ago, other dog said: I took the carburetor off and cleaned it as best I could, it will run but only with the choke mostly closed, the next thing I'm going to check is the vacuum in the distributor. It acts like it has a vacuum leak but I couldn't find any, and that's the only thing I haven't checked yet. If you have checked for a vacuum leak (unmetered air entering after the carb). take a good look at the distributor. Any play in the shaft can cause the dwell to go haywire when the advance starts to pull in. I'd 1st check the carb and intake for reason why it seams to be lean. But if you find nothing wrong look at the ign side of things. I had a 392 in a school bus that was in a shop for a valve job. Wouldn't run for crap and the shop wanted to put a new carb on, I wouldn't authorize it as I knew the carb was fine. They put one on to "show me" and it didn't run any better, had egg on their face and had to re-install the old carb and eat the price of the new one. Put a dwell meter on the ign and strapped to the windshield, and as soon as the advance started the dwell dropped to nothing. Long and short was the shaft bushing were shot and it needed a distributor. Also make sure the mechanical advance is free and the weights can move the shaft. Use a mighty vac to test the vacuum advance. It would act like fuel, stubble and back-fire with an occasional after-fire. I had to farm out the valve job because the place I was working, caring for their fleet, the bus took up the whole shop and was very difficult to get it in under its own power, would have been impossible to get it out and back in while the heads were being worked on. There is an old saying that 90% of carb problems are ign problems. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Rubber Duck 006 Posted April 25 Popular Post Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, tjc transport said: Same here. I drive a 2018 exploder, but it is still under warranty for another 40k miles or 4 years. The two other cars and 2 of the trucks are over 45 years old, and the other two are diesels. Wife drives a 2018 Ford Edge Titanium. I own a 2001 Ford F250 XL Super Duty with a 7.3 Power Stroke its currently parked due to some issues and high diesel prices lol. My daily is the 1976 Chevrolet Cheyenne C20 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 file:///C:/Users/jojot/OneDrive/Desktop/KIMG0044.JPG Heres a picture of my 'Beatah' Old Blue.. notice the respect for Watts Mack.... Yes, I drive this Beauty every day.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 picky linky no worky 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 onedrive only works if you have it JoJo Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joey Mack Posted April 25 Popular Post Share Posted April 25 yeah,,, I dont know how to use my new phone,,, never mind, I have already lost my patience... 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, tjc transport said: onedrive only works if you have it JoJo well if "one drive only works if you have it !!" what exactly can oldies do if there is NO drive, LOL yea me . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, Joey Mack said: file:///C:/Users/jojot/OneDrive/Desktop/KIMG0044.JPG Heres a picture of my 'Beatah' Old Blue.. notice the respect for Watts Mack.... Yes, I drive this Beauty every day.. sure build us up to let us down !! what the heck LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 yeah, it was nothing great, I was posting for RubberDuck.. Just my home made truck.. y'all have seen it.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 4 minutes ago, Joey Mack said: yeah, it was nothing great, I was posting for RubberDuck.. Just my home made truck.. y'all have seen it.. blue and white with the bud radiator winter front LOL . great not important in todays world ;; more important is when it retains the term RELIABLE. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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