Joey Mack Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Mistakes will happen... It just happened to be a HUGE one.. When I watched the video, I tried to put his shoes on... I started to get nervous.. I cant imagine being in that position.. just my 2 cent's.. jojo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Licensed to kill Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, Joey Mack said: Mistakes will happen... It just happened to be a HUGE one.. When I watched the video, I tried to put his shoes on... I started to get nervous.. I cant imagine being in that position.. just my 2 cent's.. jojo We all make them. Sometimes we get lucky and the consequences are minimal and other time the consequences are massive. However, almost all of us know what we SHOULD have done in hindsight which is no different than knowing what someone ELSE SHOULD have done after seeing the results of their decision. I do not know what the driver saw from the seat of his truck of what he was thinking at the time. Looking at the video, I did NOT think that crossing looked problematic from the side let alone from the front and the drivers attention was likely on "looking both ways" rather than the crossing itself. If the "hump" in the crossing was more pronounced, it would have caught his attention maybe, particularly if he has a LOT of experience pulling lowboys. that crossing looked reasonable level to me. I have seen a LOT worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rubber Duck 006 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 I'm one of those drivers that doesn't just give my opinion on observation and seeing an end result of someone else's misfortune. I've been there with a lowboy and thankfully in my instance there was no train insight. But the thought was still in the back of my mind but myself and my fellow logging crew members just worked quickly to git off the tracks. So after that I avoided rail crossings at all costs when pulling the lowboy. Didn't matter to me if the crossing looked OK I would find another way to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 I always say; don't laugh at the car with a flat tire stranded on roadside , in a moments notice I may be the one stranded others are laughing at. we all have ideas of what the lowbed driver should have / could have done, or what we would have done. a major unfortunate situation. seems the train stopped in short distance after crash possibly from impact. start of video train was a long distance away doesn't appear as too many cars hooked to engine. could train have stopped sooner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 my experience is if i am going out with the low boy i pretrip looking for trouble spots and plan alternate routes. then pre trip them too. but that goes back to when i ran the escort service. if anything happened, it was on ME not the driver, because i planned the trip route. 1 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post masterwelder Posted March 9, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2023 7 hours ago, mechohaulic said: I always say; don't laugh at the car with a flat tire stranded on roadside , in a moments notice I may be the one stranded others are laughing at. we all have ideas of what the lowbed driver should have / could have done, or what we would have done. a major unfortunate situation. seems the train stopped in short distance after crash possibly from impact. start of video train was a long distance away doesn't appear as too many cars hooked to engine. could train have stopped sooner? An engineer has many things to consider in a split second before just “dumping” the train. In some circumstances it a safer move overall to not put the train into emergency. He could do a full brake application or dump the train from the rear forward via the EOT (end of train device) instead of from front to back. How the engineer responds depends on several things, including the consist, how the train is made up (type of car and placement), empty’s vs loads, etc. In other words, if the crash is going to be unavoidable, the engineer may decide to somewhat power through it to try to keep the train on the rails, and limit overall damage to just the obstacle that’s on the tracks. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/8/2023 at 9:34 AM, mechohaulic said: possibly driver was trying to race over the crossing as lights were on and gates were coming down but figured wrong. the lights and crossing bars are usually working long before a train shows up. study video closely. he's on the track better then half way across , you can see lights are flashing with crossing gates dropping. I've sat at crossing wondering " Were's the train?" . realize under the -I fu---ed up situation , minutes go like seconds. Standard is the gates are supposed to be fully lowered 20 seconds before a train reaches the crossing. If a lot of high speed trains come through, the gates will be triggered far enough away to ensure the lights flash, gates lower, and that they make it all of the way down at least 20 seconds before the train arrives. If the crossing is set up as a distance trigger based upon the speed limit of the line, a train moving slower will have the gates down longer than the 20 seconds. Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/7/2023 at 3:09 PM, mrsmackpaul said: Spot on, we have no idea how long this may of been since he got stuck, may of been only moments before hand Article said he was only there for a few seconds before the train triggered the gates...not much time to do anything. ...and depending upon how good this driver's lawyer is, the railroad might just be cutting him a check for the damage to his truck, trailer, and load. I remember reading an article a few years back that explained it...gotta try & find it again. The tracks are not supposed to be more than 3" higher than the road surface 30' away from the crossing...and if they are higher, a sign must be present indicating a danger for low clearance vehicles. If the tracks do not meet this requirement, the railroad is liable. Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Is it still too early to comment on the woman burn'n out going backwards upon realizing the worst was about to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 i have NEVER seen a grade clearance sign at RR crossing in any of my travels. 1 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 This is what we have around here.. I guess it's "Multi-lingual" jojo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 never saw one. but than again, any roads here that have a raised rail grade are also 4 ton max weight. Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 I have seen a lot of those signs over the years.. Mostly where the RR is parallel to the main highway and the sign is for the smaller roads which turn off.. Quote Brocky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterwelder Posted April 4, 2023 Author Share Posted April 4, 2023 Another lowboy hung up and hit…. https://www.wspa.com/news/local-news/tractor-trailer-hit-by-train-in-spartanburg-co/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swishy Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 MRS U got your ears on If U hang up with a folding gooseneck unlock both gooseneck locking arms Drive forward and it can lift the deck it will either get U going or U will be hung up worse dependin on how bad the hump is have dun it many times ovr the years cya 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 The couple of times it's happened to me Swishman I was off road and couldn't get enough traction to unlock So I just jacked up a drive axle and shoved blocks of wood under Gave the truck a boot full of power and got a bit violent with the clutch and was off in 1/2 a hour Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 (edited) Swishy I do not think we have the folding neck trailers up here in the States?? Just detachable neck trailers, But I think the lift mechanism to reattach should be able to lift the front of the trailer a few inches??? Edited April 5, 2023 by Brocky Quote Brocky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 18 minutes ago, Brocky said: Swishy I do not think we have the folding neck trailers up here in the States?? Just detachable neck trailers, But I think the lift mechanism to reattach should be able to lift the front of the trailer a few inches??? brocky, my trailer will lift the front of the deck over 18 inches. normal drive height is 8 inches off the ground. and i can raise the rear of the deck close to 10 inches with the rear air ride suspension. 1 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 TJC, Thank you for the info.. I have never operated one, just watched.. 1 Quote Brocky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 no matter what type of trailer in question, the big question while bottomed out on train tracks is ; how much fu--in time before train shows up. the set back on the 1/25th beam trailer I'm building IS the gooseneck operation. have been studying many photos . neck is built . detach/ connect portion is involved. 3- cyls to raise lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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