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On 10/11/2025 at 11:05 AM, james j neiweem said:

I thought those Granites looked familiar.I wonder how long Tilcon will keep the Granites. It would be a shame to see them all replaced with Paccars. Nice to see Macks in the Tilcon fleet again. I think the last ones were RD's and a couple of CL's. I see they have the new 300 numbering units. I wonder if the original 200 numbering units were in the sale. It didn't take long for Tilcon to give them Tilcon numbers. For those who don't know Tilcon is owned by Irelands New Castle. More buying up of America!

How true.  Wish I understood the economics that makes this work for the Europeans????

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21 hours ago, Red Horse said:

Roger Sherman Riggers!  I remember being at my grandparents house on Rt 5  sitting on steps "truck watching"- a good sighting was a chain drive Roger Sherman go by.  Another one was a "straddle carrier" going by with a full load of lumber.  Talk about chain drive noise.  In my memory the driver and engine/drive train was about 8 feet or more in the air so the chains to the driving axle must have been 6 ft or more- 12ft+ total.  

Suzio has another Roger-Sherman crane with a double steer witch was built in house .......Another Hallamore take over back in the day....

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Ed

On 10/14/2025 at 9:03 PM, Red Horse said:

How true.  Wish I understood the economics that makes this work for the Europeans????

Tilcon called Gabrielle truck sale's wanting to sit down and spec out some truck's and ask if somebody  could stop down ........and there comment was were here .........so called Pete not Kenelworth  also owned by Gabrielle in Conn in witch a lot of Mack fleet's are switching to Kenyworthless truck's selling multi brand's out of 1-dealership ......? 

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Ed

1 hour ago, blackdog2 said:

Tilcon called Gabrielle truck sale's wanting to sit down and spec out some truck's and ask if somebody  could stop down ........and there comment was were here .........so called Pete not Kenelworth  also owned by Gabrielle in Conn in witch a lot of Mack fleet's are switching to Kenyworthless truck's selling multi brand's out of 1-dealership ......? 

Well I may have an interesting story..Local guy, very successfull  small excavator.  Started buying Petes.  Last one a triaxle.  then I go by the yard the otherday and the Pete-like a year old now is not there and looks like a new Granite is there.?????

But fact remains..seems like all the old  Mack construction fleets now have new Paccars🤔

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Joey Mack’s were never known for comfortable ride lol also around here alotta Pete fleets are switching to western star. I’m hearing the new Pete’s have gone down hill with way too much downtime due to recalls… bob

37 minutes ago, Red Horse said:

Talk about high center of gravity? If that tank was half empty can you imagine going into a turn too fast??

Then again it probably couldn't "go to fast"

Better Head pressure ?

 

Ed

21 hours ago, james j neiweem said:

Yes if you were lucky enough to have survived the turn.

For sure..We had a training slideshow called "Mass in Motion".  Showed a liquid load when tank was say half empty.  Truck at rest, and the liquid load would be a level line from side to ride.  Then say you went into a right hand turn.  That "level line" would creep up on the left hand side of the tank, shifting the center of gravity closer to the left.  And the faster and tighter the turn, the worse it became and the end result would often be a rollover. You wouldn't think you had to explain that to a driver.  And the same would apply if you had a peddle load and the discharge manifold allowed you to open multiple compartments.  Instead of draining one completely and taking a lesser amount out of the other compartment  to minimize "slop", you had two compartments adding to the risk.

And sad fact, it applies to freight that is not secured in a box...." the load shifted" said the dumb ass driver to the news camera!🤔

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