300+ rebuild

[mrsmackpaul]

I already have a few posts ago

As I said, Im not getting into proving I'm right, just saying it as it is

 

Paul 

[Geoff Weeks]

If you can't explain it you don't understand it! You are claiming phase change is happening below the boil point! That is not how thermal dynamics is.  Phase change happens when either the pressure is below the boil point at a given temp, or the temp is above the boil point at a given pressure, period! We are talking about a full system that is enclosed.

You can't rip the liquid apart by physical action alone. 

Edited Tuesday at 12:07 PM by Geoff Weeks

[mrsmackpaul]

5 hours ago, Geoff Weeks said:

If you can't explain it you don't understand it! 

Steady on there Geoff, that's a pretty serious accusation 

I have tried my best to explain something to you, I  never claimed to of been a expert in physics

I never finished high school 

However, that doesn't mean I'm stupid either, so perhaps stop the insults

I can't teach someone that doesn't want to learn, someone can't learn if they think they know everything 

A simple comment about is air trapped in a pump housing turns into this mess

Ah well, maybe someone has learnt something here, maybe they are convinced now that I am dumb ass and don't know my ass from my elbow due to not having a proper education in teaching and thermal dynamics 

Dunno ???

Not a lot more I can add here, I have tried my best

Back to 300+ 

Paul 

 

 

 

[Joey Mack]

Looks like Larry is doing really good work.  His attention to detail is really good. 👌 

[Geoff Weeks]

15 minutes ago, mrsmackpaul said:

Steady on there Geoff, that's a pretty serious accusation 

I have tried my best to explain something to you, I  never claimed to of been a expert in physics

I never finished high school 

However, that doesn't mean I'm stupid either, so perhaps stop the insults

I can't teach someone that doesn't want to learn, someone can't learn if they think they know everything 

A simple comment about is air trapped in a pump housing turns into this mess

Ah well, maybe someone has learnt something here, maybe they are convinced now that I am dumb ass and don't know my ass from my elbow due to not having a proper education in teaching and thermal dynamics 

Dunno ???

Not a lot more I can add here, I have tried my best

Back to 300+ 

Paul 

 

 

 

Paul, I did not mean to be insulting, Please accept my apology if anything I wrote came across as such. That was not the intent.

I do try to understand what you were saying and square that with the laws of physics as I understand those by the people who taught them to me.

I think this is one of a few things we are not going to be able to agree on. I too am willing to let it go.

 

[Freightrain]

No big updates this week.

Some painting of parts, made a few new small #4 lines for oil and coolant.

My reman steering box showed up yesterday.  Jeez that thing is HEAVY!!  Kevin All is sending me a care package with template to drill frame for new box.  That along with Jake pieces for Tip turbine.  I did install the starter last night so it is ready to spin up.  A friend gave me 10 gal of Cat oil(says better then Rotella for zinc) that I will be using.  I need to get twin filter housing off the 237 before I can prime it up.

I did get the race car all back together also.  Trans back in, oil changed and primed up.  Ready for another season after I donate bit of welding on the back end.  Seems all the wheel stands have been working on the ladder bar front cross member and I saw a couple small cracks at a couple joints.  Not uncommon actually but it has been a few years since I needed to address it.

I also have set up my friend to use his service truck to do my install.  Told him by end of March I hope to be ready to set it in the chassis.  I need to start collecting material to build a custom lift cradle.

[HarryS]

Sounds like you are close to installing the new PS box. I'll be interested to watch that process.

[mowerman]

Some pretty fast progress for as many issues you have nice going Larry also yes, my steering box was 100 pounds. I didn’t even attempt to do anything with it without the engine crane… bob

[Freightrain]

I have no room for a crane around my truck.... The stall is only as big as the truck.

[mowerman]

yes i think we have all determined that by your photos,lol....i would wait till you can get the truck outside,,,,,atleast on mine ,,,i just had to remove the alternator,,,bob

[Freightrain]

Gravel drive so no crane out there either.  Going to have to man handle it.

[Geoff Weeks]

If yours is a Sheppard, I've done it a few times, and whipped my butt each time, I did get them in, however. Being on a cabover and working under the cab and in front of the wheel was no fun.

[mechohaulic]

8 minutes ago, Freightrain said:

Gravel drive so no crane out there either.  Going to have to man handle it.

towels/blanket on cab cowl  =2x4 or pipe cowl to radiator and a chain hoist to lift the steering box.  one steering box /dozens of brake drums etc man handled ;you end up like this old man !! F-- K it use mechanical devices to save the only back you have. don't want to think or count the drums/ steering boxes and whatever else I did. 

[mechohaulic]

farm I help out at to keep busy there are dumpsters parked . right now there is a dumpster from a metal fabricating shop. at least two floor cranes are in it besides countless pieces of steel. makes me sick to see the two cranes in there. I can't use them or store them. two 5 gallon pails ;one full of sockets another full of wrenches. the waste in todays world.

[other dog]

17 minutes ago, mechohaulic said:

farm I help out at to keep busy there are dumpsters parked . right now there is a dumpster from a metal fabricating shop. at least two floor cranes are in it besides countless pieces of steel. makes me sick to see the two cranes in there. I can't use them or store them. two 5 gallon pails ;one full of sockets another full of wrenches. the waste in todays world.

Wow, I could use a crane to hoist my stew pot from the hand truck onto the stand. I got a hand truck to haul it from the shed to the stand when I got the new bigger, stronger, faster stew pot but it's all I can do to get it from the hand truck up onto the stand.

[Mark T]

33 minutes ago, mechohaulic said:

towels/blanket on cab cowl  =2x4 or pipe cowl to radiator and a chain hoist to lift the steering box.  one steering box /dozens of brake drums etc man handled ;you end up like this old man !! F-- K it use mechanical devices to save the only back you have. don't want to think or count the drums/ steering boxes and whatever else I did. 

Bet the trucks didn't feel a thing. We've all done it.

[mowerman]

Can’t you set up the engine crane in your pick up bed facing the tailgate ????

[Freightrain]

2 hours ago, mowerman said:

Can’t you set up the engine crane in your pick up bed facing the tailgate ????

Won't reach far enough.

Once I get the template and holes drilled it won't be such an ordeal just shoving it in the hole.  If I had to hold it for a long time I would be in trouble.

 

A bit of progress tonight after dinner with Karen.  I got ambitious to see if I could get the input out of the transmission.

Yup.

Thanks all for the push to just try and knock it apart without any fancy tools.  I watched a YouTube video of a guy doing it like mentioned.  Few smacks with a hammer and it all popped apart.  Worse part was getting snap ring off the front.  Had to mangle it but a new one comes in the kit.

Googled kits and found local Pete dealer has Eaton kit for $260.  I will be getting that tomorrow after work.   Pt 2468 has everything and more then I need.

https://ohiopeterbilt.com/products/fuller-kit-clutch-install

Question for the masses:

The plastic 3/16" fuel return line.  Mack part only?  It is reinforced plastic but only slips on fittings, no ferrel or clamps.  Mine is pretty rough and needs replaced.  

I did get the crank hub installed the other night and balancer is on.  Just need bigger torque wrench to get to 300ft/lb.  Buddies only goes 250#.

[67RModel]

9 hours ago, Freightrain said:

I did get the crank hub installed the other night and balancer is on.  Just need bigger torque wrench to get to 300ft/lb.  Buddies only goes 250#.

I think I have mentioned this in another thread about doing wheel seals and torquing axle nuts but Harbor Freight makes this device. Turns any breaker bar into a torque wrench up to 750 ft*lb. Works very well. It is made in Taiwan not China so the quality is good an its only $65

3/4 in. Drive, 150 to 750 ft-lb Digital Torque Adapter

[mowerman]

Excellent thanks for letting us know and Niel I think Geoff also mentioned that same item that’s amazing. I have never heard of it, but it makes perfect sense. Looks like Gear reduction unit. I have the same issue. I don’t have anything around here bigger than three-quarter breaker bar… bob

[Geoff Weeks]

No, I mentioned a torque multiplier, which is a different item, one reads the torque passing through it and the other increase the output relative to the input (more movement on the input gives smaller movement but higher torque on the output)

You could use both, the multiplier to be able to reach higher torque in a small area and the meter to accurately tell you when you have reached the desired torque. One is a "transmission" in a lower gear and the other directly reads the torque applied.

 

Edited 8 hours ago by Geoff Weeks

[Freightrain]

1 hour ago, 67RModel said:

I think I have mentioned this in another thread about doing wheel seals and torquing axle nuts but Harbor Freight makes this device. Turns any breaker bar into a torque wrench up to 750 ft*lb. Works very well. It is made in Taiwan not China so the quality is good an its only $65

3/4 in. Drive, 150 to 750 ft-lb Digital Torque Adapter

Thanks for reminding me.  I may just pick one up for that price.

Looks like it may beep or show a preset number you want to reach?

The multiplier allows you to pull 100# and exert 700#.  The digital versions makes you pull the 700# yourself.

[other dog]

Sounds like having a main transmission, an auxiliary transmission, and a two speed rear.

[67RModel]

21 minutes ago, Freightrain said:

Looks like it may beep or show a preset number you want to reach?

Yes the digital hobo freight one you preset the torque you want and it starts beeping when you are coming up on the preset then a constant tone when you reach it. I think it switches between ft*lb and Nm too. And yes you have to pull what you are set at. No multiplication. So get a 3' length of 1" EMT conduit to slide over your breaker bar 😎

[mechohaulic]

17 hours ago, Freightrain said:

Won't reach far enough.

Once I get the template and holes drilled it won't be such an ordeal just shoving it in the hole.  If I had to hold it for a long time I would be in trouble.

 

A bit of progress tonight after dinner with Karen.  I got ambitious to see if I could get the input out of the transmission.

Yup.

Thanks all for the push to just try and knock it apart without any fancy tools.  I watched a YouTube video of a guy doing it like mentioned.  Few smacks with a hammer and it all popped apart.  Worse part was getting snap ring off the front.  Had to mangle it but a new one comes in the kit.

Googled kits and found local Pete dealer has Eaton kit for $260.  I will be getting that tomorrow after work.   Pt 2468 has everything and more then I need.

https://ohiopeterbilt.com/products/fuller-kit-clutch-install

Question for the masses:

The plastic 3/16" fuel return line.  Mack part only?  It is reinforced plastic but only slips on fittings, no ferrel or clamps.  Mine is pretty rough and needs replaced.  

I did get the crank hub installed the other night and balancer is on.  Just need bigger torque wrench to get to 300ft/lb.  Buddies only goes 250#.

lube oil return port on front housing at 4:30 . match front cover on reinstall  not any good now but ; I had a 600 lb torque wrench. gave it to someone since moving I had no need for it. challenge is thinking of who now :: can't remember who.