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Trump and Immigration (Illegal Immigrants in the US)

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On 11/26/2018 at 12:47 PM, Brocky said:

I believe Soros is behind this whole movement. Who is organizing and paying the food and transportation bill to get that many people from southern Central America to the San Diego border??

Exactly, I  agree 100%!

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"I think we need immigration laws that focus on people who pose a real threat and I don't think [illegal immigrant] moms and babies are the place that we should be spending our resources. Separating a [illegal immigrant] momma from a baby does not make this country safer."

Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren

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I couldn't agree more. They should have been immediately deported.......no resources spent.......end of story.

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I will say, most of the time when a child is separated from its parents during deportation is when there is suspicion of whether or not they are actually traveling with a parent.

It’s the idea of stopping human trafficking which is surprisingly common based on what I’ve read, not necessarily them catching human traffickers in this fashion but human trafficking in general. They have apparently caught a few human traffickers thanks to this though, and the way I look at it, if just one more human life is saved then I don’t care about the resources being used.

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"I think that anyone who is in a situation where they're in need of healthcare, regardless of whether they are documented or undocumented [a legal or illegal immigrant], we have an obligation to see that they are cared for."

Joe Biden

May 9, 2019

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"This idea that undocumented [illegal immigrants] - and by the way a significant portion of undocumented folks [criminals] in our country are there because they've overstayed their visas. It's not people breaking down gates coming across the border."

Joe Biden

May 9, 2019

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obama made off with the last two brain cells that joe had

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Chicago Mayor Vows to Shield [Illegal] Migrants From Raids by U.S. Agents

Bloomberg  /  June 21, 2019

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot condemned the Trump administration over planned raids of [illegal] migrant communities and said she had ordered police to cut federal agents’ access to databases related to immigration enforcement activities.

“We are all aware of the threat from President Trump regarding raids by ICE, and in response, Chicago has taken concrete steps to support our [illegal] immigrant communities,” Lightfoot said on Friday, referring to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Lightfoot, who took office in May, said she had told ICE officials that the Chicago Police Department “will not cooperate with or facilitate any ICE enforcement actions.”

“Chicago will always be a welcoming city and a champion for the rights of our [illegal] immigrant and refugee communities,” Lightfoot added.

President Trump has directed ICE agents to conduct a roundup of [illegal] migrant families that have received deportation orders, an operation that is likely to start in large U.S. cities on Sunday.

In a statement on Friday, the agency said that “due to law-enforcement sensitivities and the safety and security of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement personnel, the agency will not offer specific details related to enforcement operations.”

“As always, ICE prioritizes the arrest and removal of unlawfully present [illegal] aliens who pose a threat to national security, public safety and border security,” ICE added in the statement.

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U.S. cities brace for immigration raids, say they will not participate

Reuters  /  June 21, 2019

WASHINGTON - U.S. cities expecting to be hit by a wave of immigration raids intended to deport recently arrived families who are in the United States illegally said on Friday they would not cooperate with federal authorities.

In a call with reporters earlier this week, Mark Morgan, the acting director of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said the agency would target for deportation families that have received a removal order from a U.S. immigration court.

The operation is slated to launch on Sunday and is expected to target up to 2,000 [illegal immigrant] families facing deportation orders in as many as 10 U.S. cities, including Houston, Chicago, Miami and Los Angeles.

Chicago’s Mayor Lori Lightfoot said she had terminated ICE’s access to Chicago Police Department (CPD) databases related to federal immigration enforcement activities in response to the threat of raids.

“I have also personally spoken with ICE leadership in Chicago and voiced my strong objection to any such raids. Further, I reiterated that CPD will not cooperate with or facilitate any ICE enforcement actions,” Lightfoot said.

The Los Angeles Police Department said in a series of tweets it would not participate or assist in the immigration enforcement actions.

Houston’s Mayor Sylvester Turner noted in a statement the “rich cultural contributions” of the city’s [illegal] immigrants, and said: “The city does not try to do ICE’s job, nor does it try to impede ICE.”

Morgan said earlier this week that ICE wanted to deport families who had recently arrived illegally in the United States to discourage more Central Americans from arriving.

The number of migrants apprehended crossing the U.S.-Mexico border surged in May to the highest level since 2006.

Separately, the governor of Texas said the state was deploying 1,000 National Guard troops to the border after he said more than 45,000 people were apprehended illegally crossing in the past three weeks.

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I am by no means a very intelligent person,so could someone explain to me what the definition is of illegal is?

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BBC   /  July 23, 2019

The US government is introducing a new fast-track deportation process that will bypass immigration courts.

Under the new rules, migrants who cannot prove they have been in the US continuously for more than two years can be immediately deported.

Until now, expedited deportations could only be applied to those detained near the border who had been in the US for less than two weeks.

Rights groups say hundreds of thousands of people could be affected. [Non-American illegal immigrants have no "rights" in the U.S. under our Constitution]

The American[?] Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) says it will challenge the policy in court.

The new rule is expected to be implemented with immediate effect after it is published on Tuesday.

Previously, only people detained within 100 miles (160km) of the border who had been in the US for less than two weeks could be deported quickly.

Migrants who were found elsewhere, or who had been in the country for more than two weeks, would need to be processed through the courts and would be entitled to legal representation.

But the new rules state that people can be deported regardless of where in the country they are when they are detained, and without allowing them access to a lawyer.

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) said the new rules would allow it to pursue large numbers of illegal migrants more efficiently.

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So on the US presidential debates last night, Biden was ragged on because Obama deported thousands of illegal immigrants who had no legal basis to be here and he (Biden) did nothing to stop Obama. Go figure.

(According to government data, Obama deported far more illegal immigrants than Trump has to date.)

As soon as word got around that we were giving it all away for free, they want to (illegally) come here by the tens of thousands and live off our tax money.

On the debates, they were also touting decriminalizing border crossing, i.e. promoting open borders. 

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I want legal immigration according to existing U.S. law. But this.......I don't get it.

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Reuters  /  August 28, 2019

Children born to U.S. citizens stationed abroad as government employees or members of the U.S. military will no longer qualify for automatic American citizenship under a policy change unveiled on Wednesday by the Trump administration.

Effective Oct. 29, parents serving overseas in the U.S. armed forces or other agencies of the federal government would need to go through a formal application process seeking U.S. citizenship on their children’s behalf, the policy states.

Currently, children born to U.S. citizens stationed by their government in a foreign country are legally considered to be “residing in the United States,” allowing their parents to simply obtain a certificate showing the children acquired citizenship automatically.

But an 11-page “policy alert” issued by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) said the agency found the prevailing policy to be at odds with other parts of federal immigration law. Beyond that, the rationale for the policy change remained unclear.

“USCIS is updating its policy regarding children of U.S. government employees and U.S. armed forces members employed or stationed outside the United States to explain that they are not considered to be ‘residing in the United States’ for purposes of acquiring citizenship,” the memorandum said.

The number of government and military personnel affected by the change was not immediately known, but the revised policy sparked immediate consternation on the part of some organizations representing members of the armed forces.

“Military members already have enough to deal with, and the last thing that they should have to do when stationed overseas is go through hoops to ensure their children are U.S. citizens,” said Andy Blevins, executive director of the Modern Military Association of America.

He urged Congress to take action to address the situation to “ensure our military families don’t suffer the consequences of a reckless administration.”

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26 minutes ago, kscarbel2 said:

I want legal immigration according to existing U.S. law. But this.......I don't get it.

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Reuters  /  August 28, 2019

Children born to U.S. citizens stationed abroad as government employees or members of the U.S. military will no longer qualify for automatic American citizenship under a policy change unveiled on Wednesday by the Trump administration.

Effective Oct. 29, parents serving overseas in the U.S. armed forces or other agencies of the federal government would need to go through a formal application process seeking U.S. citizenship on their children’s behalf, the policy states.

Currently, children born to U.S. citizens stationed by their government in a foreign country are legally considered to be “residing in the United States,” allowing their parents to simply obtain a certificate showing the children acquired citizenship automatically.

But an 11-page “policy alert” issued by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) said the agency found the prevailing policy to be at odds with other parts of federal immigration law. Beyond that, the rationale for the policy change remained unclear.

“USCIS is updating its policy regarding children of U.S. government employees and U.S. armed forces members employed or stationed outside the United States to explain that they are not considered to be ‘residing in the United States’ for purposes of acquiring citizenship,” the memorandum said.

The number of government and military personnel affected by the change was not immediately known, but the revised policy sparked immediate consternation on the part of some organizations representing members of the armed forces.

“Military members already have enough to deal with, and the last thing that they should have to do when stationed overseas is go through hoops to ensure their children are U.S. citizens,” said Andy Blevins, executive director of the Modern Military Association of America.

He urged Congress to take action to address the situation to “ensure our military families don’t suffer the consequences of a reckless administration.”

Makes no sense.  If nothing else, a big negative to anyone thinking of a military career

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