57 bcr Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Need a shift pattern plate (diagram) for a TRQ-720 trans.Doesn't have to be new,just decent & readable.PM me if you have one you would like to sell. Thanks..........Al Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ditchkus Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Watts Mack or Matt Phahl should have them. Joe D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 Joe,The Watt's version is for an 18 speed where you go from 4th high to 5th high (not splitting 5th gear at all).My trans according to the manual is a 20 speed,where you do split 5th gear.A little different.Thanks for the suggestion,though.I will check with Matt if I can't come up with anything from anybody on here,he is a busy man! Al Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Joe,The Watt's version is for an 18 speed where you go from 4th high to 5th high (not splitting 5th gear at all).My trans according to the manual is a 20 speed,where you do split 5th gear.A little different.Thanks for the suggestion,though.I will check with Matt if I can't come up with anything from anybody on here,he is a busy man! Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Joe,The Watt's version is for an 18 speed where you go from 4th high to 5th high (not splitting 5th gear at all).My trans according to the manual is a 20 speed,where you do split 5th gear.A little different.Thanks for the suggestion,though.I will check with Matt if I can't come up with anything from anybody on here,he is a busy man! AlAL, Here's the way mine looks in my BCR. Jake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted November 11, 2013 Author Share Posted November 11, 2013 AL, Here's the way mine looks in my BCR. JakeThanks for that ,Jake. I have seen the 2 separate decals before. I could go that route, too. Al Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Does this help any? Don't recall what trans. this plate is for. Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted November 11, 2013 Author Share Posted November 11, 2013 Does this help any? Don't recall what trans. this plate is for.Closest version,so far Jim.Thanks. Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I believe that is the correct plate Al in the picture for a TRQ720. a TRQ72 would be direct in 5th. the TRQ720 is direct in 4th, over in 5th. I pretty much think a an 18 speed and 20 speed over is the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 I believe that is the correct plate Al in the picture for a TRQ720. a TRQ72 would be direct in 5th. the TRQ720 is direct in 4th, over in 5th. I pretty much think a an 18 speed and 20 speed over is the same thing.10-4 Matt.Thanks Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I never really figure out the 18 and 20 speed stuff. I now the 0 in 70 is overdrive and means it direct in 4th and over in 5th and then you don't use the two auxillary gears you get 18 . they started out with 20 speed direct quads then the 20 speed over the it went to an 18 speed over. one was a TRQ72 then there was TRQ720 and TRQ7220 and TRQ7210. I think the 7220 means double over and the 7210 is a single over. im probably wrong but someone will chime in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I looked through some of my Mack literature and Mack calls the TRQ-720 and TRQ-7210 a 20 spd trans. The B model operations manual then includes a ratio chart showing the TRQ-720 (20 spd) has 16 speeds that are available for practical use and the TRQ-7210 (20 spd) has 14 speeds for practical use.Mack list the TRQ-770 and the TRQ-7220 as 18 spd overgear transmissions. There is a list of all the ratios with none deleted that are impractical, going backwards or super close. Following the progression of ratios in the chart, I get 14 speeds for the TRQ-7220 and 16 speeds for the TRQ-770. Understand this is my speculation and is not official Mack info. I was trying to find official Mack info on the gears that weren't practical for use.In the BMT Wiki, there is a list of the quadbox ratios. 2 Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 http://www.oldmacksrus.com/trannys.htmI always shift my quadruplex just like a 13 speed triplex. 1 Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 I have actually seen a 14 speed quadbox and shifting pattern in a B81 someone scrapped. think the transmission is still layin in the weeds. must have been about the last B model off the line eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 http://www.oldmacksrus.com/trannys.htmI always shift my quadruplex just like a 13 speed triplex.Looking at the ratios, there is no true progression to use LL other than getting out of a hole, mud, etc.We will need some video of the stick mixing action sometime! Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Looking at the ratios, there is no true progression to use LL other than getting out of a hole, mud, etc.We will need some video of the stick mixing action sometime! I'll second that motion about the stick mixing action there Jay. Good suggestion. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdog Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 I have actually seen a 14 speed quadbox and shifting pattern in a B81 someone scrapped. think the transmission is still layin in the weeds. must have been about the last B model off the line eh?my B46 has a 14 speed quad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog13407 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 thats a baby quad tho right Mike? a 77 series? have one of those in our 1963 B42s. the one I saw was a 72 series in a B81, even had the tag still in the cab that said 14 speed. I tink Dave Zsido use to have a B47 with the 465 engine and a baby 77 series quad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 http://www.oldmacksrus.com/trannys.htmI always shift my quadruplex just like a 13 speed triplex.Mine also shifts like a 13 speed triplex. It's a TRQ7220. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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