BronsonA2150 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Seems like mack and John Deere are about the only 2 companies I can think of that really didn’t have their engines in anything besides what they built. Kind of a shame since it seems the L10 Cummins was a flop from what I’ve heard and think the e6/e7 could have been a good fit for an alternative. Just a thought I had. I enjoy reading about management history of these companies and deals that happened behind closed doors Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76446-was-mack-ever-approached-by-equipment-companies-for-engines/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehummell Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago The dealer talked me into buying a triaxle with the L10 for where I used to work, I drove it maybe 70 miles back from where I had a company install the flatbed and I was shocked at how gutless the truck was we had one with a 3406 and it was a screamer compared to this new truck 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76446-was-mack-ever-approached-by-equipment-companies-for-engines/#findComment-592080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago Our stationary kohler generators around my city have John Deere engines, as well as 2 of our portable water pumps. One is a 1 MGD, and the other is a 3 MGD pump. Made by Godwin. I did build 3, 3179DF engines to be used as powerplants for water trucks. But thats all i know. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76446-was-mack-ever-approached-by-equipment-companies-for-engines/#findComment-592082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
67RModel Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago I've seen plenty of stationary equipment with John Deere diesels as stock power. As for Mack ever being asked about selling bare engines for equipment use kskarbel would probably know the answer. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76446-was-mack-ever-approached-by-equipment-companies-for-engines/#findComment-592084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago I know a guy that stuck a 237 in a Euclid. That was only because he had it around and knew it was a good (free) engine. It was only like a 25 ton truck, and it worked ok. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76446-was-mack-ever-approached-by-equipment-companies-for-engines/#findComment-592085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 25 minutes ago, davehummell said: The dealer talked me into buying a triaxle with the L10 for where I used to work, I drove it maybe 70 miles back from where I had a company install the flatbed and I was shocked at how gutless the truck was we had one with a 3406 and it was a screamer compared to this new truck 3406 is over 14L, L-10 is 10 liter, not a fair comparison. L-10 was kinda gutless but it was small and topped out at 300hp in mechanical form and 330 in electronic at the end of its life. It was replaced by the M-11 a "stroked" version, that was electronic from the get-go and that got power up over 400 hp. I had the experience of driving both an L-10 and a 3306 which were a closer comparison, in the same service with the same loads, and I felt the L-10 was slightly better than the 3306, both were 300 hp and the Cat blew the timing gears early in its life, the L10 lasted a lot longer. IIRC I got in the mid 6's for fuel with the L-10, about what my 6.9 did in my service truck! Both Cat and Cummins were pushing these small displacement, mechanical engines as fuel savers, over their large bore engines. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76446-was-mack-ever-approached-by-equipment-companies-for-engines/#findComment-592086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
67RModel Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Yea I never drove one or really been around an L10 but I routinely heard they were small workhorses with above average to excellent reliability. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76446-was-mack-ever-approached-by-equipment-companies-for-engines/#findComment-592087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Worked on Deere engines in river tow boats. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76446-was-mack-ever-approached-by-equipment-companies-for-engines/#findComment-592088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehummell Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago I ordered any new triaxles with the c12 and later the c13 they did a good job I had a c15 515 hp. tractor and a lighter c12 tractor the c12 would run along on the flat but the driver of the c15 said as soon as you could see a hill coming the c12 would start losing ground. I got to run a Cat 3408 and that was a whole lot different than the 350 Cummins I was driving Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76446-was-mack-ever-approached-by-equipment-companies-for-engines/#findComment-592089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago really no comparison, when you are looking at older mechanical engines and trying to compare to newer electronic ones. The L-10 topped out at 300 hp mechanical, but was more common at 240hp or 2 hp over an old 6-71! Gear ratio/tire size also makes a big difference. The whole truck has to be spec'd for the job to make the most of any one component. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76446-was-mack-ever-approached-by-equipment-companies-for-engines/#findComment-592094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 10 hours ago, BronsonA2150 said: Seems like mack and John Deere are about the only 2 companies I can think of that really didn’t have their engines in anything besides what they built. Kind of a shame since it seems the L10 Cummins was a flop from what I’ve heard and think the e6/e7 could have been a good fit for an alternative. Just a thought I had. I enjoy reading about management history of these companies and deals that happened behind closed doors the e9 was used in tanks at one point From what I have heard! 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76446-was-mack-ever-approached-by-equipment-companies-for-engines/#findComment-592100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago And boats... 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76446-was-mack-ever-approached-by-equipment-companies-for-engines/#findComment-592101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Mack1 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, Joey Mack said: And boats... Yep, Mack made boat engines. And stuff for railroads, but that was mostly small tugs. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76446-was-mack-ever-approached-by-equipment-companies-for-engines/#findComment-592110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Heinz Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 hours ago, fjh said: the e9 was used in tanks at one point From what I have heard! What tank models? I have got to find a video of one running, that's a cool engine to have in a tank. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76446-was-mack-ever-approached-by-equipment-companies-for-engines/#findComment-592115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Was it a tank , or armored personnel carriers ? Might have been in France too if it was. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76446-was-mack-ever-approached-by-equipment-companies-for-engines/#findComment-592119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted 32 minutes ago Share Posted 32 minutes ago i remember reading about a few quad turbo E9 V8's made for tank use by france, but dont know if they were ever shipped/used. Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76446-was-mack-ever-approached-by-equipment-companies-for-engines/#findComment-592125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted 16 minutes ago Share Posted 16 minutes ago John Deere sold plenty of industrial engines, lot of farm irrigation pumps and generators had/have John Deere engines Dunno about Mack, I'm thinking Kato cranes in Australia But I'm fairly sure they were a crane bolted to a Mack chassis Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76446-was-mack-ever-approached-by-equipment-companies-for-engines/#findComment-592129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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