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Shops a shop planes or trucks it's the space, NON UNION space, don't even know how we do it, seems there are some here that think we are all failures unless your some union drone. 

The guy to my right is Sergei he is now in flight operations and I do sales but we can fly any time we want, I can jump a ride to anyplace a Antonov might be going and then catch a ride back or onto s

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David, I enjoyed walking thru the 225 Antonov some 16-18 years ago when it was at the Avalon, Victoria Australia air show, including climbing the stairs to the flight deck, it was massive, it was lowered to minimum ground clearance and the front and rear were open, there was a very long que of people to see the Antonov, we entered from the back and out the front - 1,000's attend these shows to see, walk into and thru some magnificent aircraft and watch some real flying, including 1 jet plane similar top wing design do the 360 rollover.

I have some recollection that the Antonov did a take off, went around for a low fly thru along the main Avalon runway and then went around the bay and came in for a landing.

Also many years ago, the Antonov flew into Melbourne Tullamarine airport, my mate was a refueling supervisor, he did the refueling of the Antonov. He had the joy of a guided tour of the entire Antonov by the engineer.

I have read an article and saw a youtube video of an incomplete Antonov in the hanger in Ukraine. Is this true and correct? Article noted that if the funding could be secured to complete the Antonov, then it would go ahead.    

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On 8/16/2020 at 5:45 PM, Quickfarms said:

Union workers are the minority in the us only around 10%

Every one of the union workers I know has a bad attitude and spend most of there energy protecting there job.

Unions generally box a worker into a job description defined by a contract that was negotiated by a committee.

The problem that I have seen with this is it limits, or eliminates, the cross training with other specialities or trades.

Being non union has allowed me huge leeway to expand my interests both professionally and personally.


 

I could go on and on about my experiences with union greed and laziness, but i'm not. 

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On 8/21/2020 at 7:06 PM, harrybarbon said:

David, I enjoyed walking thru the 225 Antonov some 16-18 years ago when it was at the Avalon, Victoria Australia air show, including climbing the stairs to the flight deck, it was massive, it was lowered to minimum ground clearance and the front and rear were open, there was a very long que of people to see the Antonov, we entered from the back and out the front - 1,000's attend these shows to see, walk into and thru some magnificent aircraft and watch some real flying, including 1 jet plane similar top wing design do the 360 rollover.

I have some recollection that the Antonov did a take off, went around for a low fly thru along the main Avalon runway and then went around the bay and came in for a landing.

Also many years ago, the Antonov flew into Melbourne Tullamarine airport, my mate was a refueling supervisor, he did the refueling of the Antonov. He had the joy of a guided tour of the entire Antonov by the engineer.

I have read an article and saw a youtube video of an incomplete Antonov in the hanger in Ukraine. Is this true and correct? Article noted that if the funding could be secured to complete the Antonov, then it would go ahead.    

The Antonov fly escaltors into to Sydney when Melbourne was building its first Crown casino

It couldn't land in Melbourne then for some reason and the escalators were trucked to Melbourne 

The company  Kone Elevators won the contract because they were the only people that could get the escaltors in the time frame required 

Write ups in the paper and Im pretty sure even made it to the news on TV

 

Paul 

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5 minutes ago, mrsmackpaul said:

The Antonov fly escaltors into to Sydney when Melbourne was building its first Crown casino

It couldn't land in Melbourne then for some reason and the escalators were trucked to Melbourne 

The company  Kone Elevators won the contract because they were the only people that could get the escaltors in the time frame required 

Write ups in the paper and Im pretty sure even made it to the news on TV

 

Paul 

Landing in Perth......fighting a crosswind.

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Hi Paul, thanks for the comment re Crown Casino, that was around 1994/95 when I was working with a company that was the back up premix concrete supplier to the builder of Crown Casino. A friend worked for the builder doing the concrete, often 12-14 hour days, at least weekly they started a 150-200 cubic metre pour at 4 pm and they got off the finished concrete at 9 pm and then back on the job at 7 am.

So based on your recollection, the Antonov flew into Syd around 95/96, Kone would have supplied the escalators in addition to the lifts - there are many long escalators in the casino. The Antonov would have been perfect to load the escalators into the plane.

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Okay Paul and readers, I got it wrong. It was the Antonov 124 ( 4 engines ) plane that came to Australia with the Kone lifts and was at the Avalon air show. Both planes are same basic design, the 225 is approx 15 meters longer than the 124 and the 225 has twin rear tail fins, plus 6 engines. Both open front nose and back end.  And both are 175,000 kilograms/385,000 pounds empty weight. Reading the 225 info it was used to transport the Russian space shuttle same as NASA's specially built 747 to carry the US shuttle. Interesting that Russia and US had similar space shuttles. And info says that one 225 built and one not finished.

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After reading this thread, the  "Odds and Ends" discussion category could be deleted.

Forums like this, loose their original purpose when members are allowed to spew social, political, personal opinions and show disrespect towards other members. 

 

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34 minutes ago, mnslim said:

After reading this thread, the  "Odds and Ends" discussion category could be deleted.

Forums like this, loose their original purpose when members are allowed to spew social, political, personal opinions and show disrespect towards other members. 

 

 that is Why most of those people are no longer here.

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it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp..

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On 8/16/2020 at 9:18 PM, david wild said:

next week we move a chamber used to train pilots for high altitude flight, that required 2 background checks due to it coming from and going to a highly restricted area, some of our best pilots and Astronauts may have trained in this very chamber, being built in 1953 it has seen many of our best pilots

David Wild, have you ever heard of the Naval Air Warfare Center, Aircraft Division in Warminster Pennsylvania? In years past it started as the Brewster Aircraft Company, was later taken over by the War Department, and later the US Navy. It was also called NAS Johnsville and the Naval Air Development Center. Not to be confused with NAS Willow Grove, Pa. which is about 6 nautical miles to the southwest. NAWC Warminster was a victim of one of Reagan's BRACs and the facility began to relocate to Pax River, Md in the mid 1980's and the facility totally closed and the flag was retired in March of 1993. 

Anyway, I started my Federal Firefighter Career as a rookie firefighter at NADC which had the largest dynamic flight simulator in North America at the time it was operational. (human centrifuge.) ALL of the Astronauts spun in the 'fuge from Mercury to the Shuttle astronauts up to 1995 when use of the facility by the USN ceased and it was taken over by Penn State University. It was eventually shut down entirely as the private contractors and PSU couldn't afford the upkeep on it. When it was still running for the USN, medical personnel were required to be on site when it was running, but because the base was closing, the USN Corpsman were being relocated. It was decided that Fire Department EMT's would be present when spinning, and since I was an EMT, I was tapped with another guy to go over with the ambulance and stand by and monitor vital signs and transport to civilian hospital if necessary (the infirmary
 was closed by then.) It was considered boring duty, but I ate it up as I was an aviation and space exploration buff and loved meeting the Astronauts. They were down to earth (pardon the pun) really cool folks, especially when they learned I was crash crew qualified. 

It had to come to an end for me however, as I put in for a firefighter position at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard, and moved on in January of 1997. After the Shipyard I became a Firefighter at Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland where I was part of the crash crew for about a year. Saw a lot of cool stuff at Phillips Army Airfield that I can't talk about. It was awesome having worked at these three facilities and I consider myself very fortunate and humbled to have worked there. 
 

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