Mack L type needs identification

[Guy Edelist]

Dear All,

this image from the Israel '50 needs identification.

Milk Tanker in the lower galeel area, near Afula.

what type is this Mack?

BR

-Guy

ITRC

[2stacksuperdog]

Looks like an LJ

[41chevy]

It looks to be an LF or an LJ. Paul

[Guy Edelist]

Both LF and LJ where in Israel.

How can we tell if this is LJ or LF?

Te most common engine in Mack in Israel was 672 /673, if this helps.

a few Lanova engines were around but for military trucks, NR etc.

-Guy

ITRC
guy.edelist@gmail.com

[Superdog]

i'd say LJ,because of the exposed radiator cap,every LF I've seen had the cap underneath the grille shell

[41chevy]

  On 12/30/2014 at 7:44 PM, Superdog said:

i'd say LJ,because of the exposed radiator cap,every LF I've seen had the cap underneath the grille shell

Good eyes Mike , I couldn't see the cap. Paul

[Vladislav]

Let me toos a stupid question in the ring - why that one couldn't be a LH ?

[Superdog]

  On 12/30/2014 at 8:49 PM, Vladislav said:

Let me toos a stupid question in the ring - why that one couldn't be a LH ?

possibility,as rare as those were,they don't get much thought I guess.

[yarnall]

http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/index.php?/gallery/image/13516-1950-mack-lft/

Here is an LFT with an external radiator cap. I can't tell the difference between and LF and an LJ unless it has really heavy axles. Mike

[Gmerrill0516]

I'd vote LJ. I'd also note that if you see a tank that shape in the USA, don't dring out of it...it won't be milk...More like Gasoline. Yuk!

Greg

[speweik]

My LFT has an exposed radiator cap. I thought the difference between the LF and LJ was weight rating.

[Guy Edelist]

Thank you all for the answers.

now, most common mack engine in those days in Israel was 673.

which one have 673? LF or LJ?

-Guy

[Vladislav]

L's also had 672 wich were Lanova's due to their combustion chamber.

[j hancock]

The Mack 673 was introduced in 1953.

[Guy Edelist]

yep. this trailer contains milk on it's way to the dairy.

please not that was in the the first 10 years of Israel, so we can forgive about using metal tanks.. no one hurts fro drinking this milk.

However Mack was THE iron horse of transport in Israel, from '1930 to 2000 when local dealer so called collapsed, sold assets to Volvo dealer. unfortunately tradition did not continued no new Mack here.

[Vladislav]

I want to ask by a chance wasn't this LMSW wrecker located in Israel?

The pic is from the net.

[Guy Edelist]

Very interesting piece of truck..

what's it';s make and origin?

Will Check it out. the text on the door is in Hebrew, says "Holon tow service".

scenery looks Israeli too.

[Guy Edelist]

Vlad,

The LMSW in the nice picture you sent is actually MACK NR, with local made tow crane and Scania Vabis cab..

last time seen at Egged parking lot at ARAD, Israel.

keep me posted for news, will be happy to help

- Guy

ITRC
guy.edelist@gmail.com

[Vladislav]

Guy,

That's pretty interesting.

Although I have big doubts it was NR.

If that it had been shortened, front hubs swapped and army LMSW front fenders and grill installed.

Actually if you look over naked chassis NR and LMSW the differences might be found if you know what to look at.

LMSW's had double frames and NR's singles. Different wheel base and some crossmembers.

The most correct answer might be given by the chassis #.

[Guy Edelist]

Vlad,

What you says makes sens, but LMSW was not that common here, while NR starts the transportation here.

Israel was and still is, in some manners THE place for modifying technologies.. it might be th NR was heavily modified.

will need to check this unique truck.

you most welcome to contact via email

guy.edelist@gmail.com

Cheers

Guy ITRC

[Vladislav]

Guy,

Thank you, I will as far as I have a real need. Just always too much to do and keep in mind.

By the word here on this site is a private message system. I try and used to check both email and BMT daily.

It will be very interesting to track down the story or any other facts of that LMSW (or NR-?) truck.

WW2 LMSW heavy wreckers were built in much less number than NR's, only 664 units for both Britishes and Canadians.

Vlad

[41chevy]

  On 1/17/2015 at 3:50 PM, Vladislav said:

Guy,

That's pretty interesting.

Although I have big doubts it was NR.

If that it had been shortened, front hubs swapped and army LMSW front fenders and grill installed.

Actually if you look over naked chassis NR and LMSW the differences might be found if you know what to look at.

LMSW's had double frames and NR's singles. Different wheel base and some crossmembers.

The most correct answer might be given by the chassis #.

Any thing is possible Vlad. In Israels early years Trucks and Armour were assembled from parts from depots and military scrap yards all over Europe and the Middle East.

[Guy Edelist]

Guys..

It's an LMSW.

thanks Vlad and all of you, will keep you posted.