The Heinz Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago I usually don't like to talk politics, especially online, but I have to say I have no idea what to believe anymore. On one hand, I do not like Iran and would rather them not have a nuke at all, but on the other, where there actually any WMD's in Iraq? Could this be another ploy just to destabilize another country for monetary gain (or some other form of ill-gotten gains)? Maybe. All I know, is I want my diesel prices back down, please. I just bought my first diesel pickup and was loving it before, now I drive with my teeth gritted. 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76444-the-iran-event/page/3/#findComment-592894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted 7 hours ago Author Share Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, 67RModel said: I don't think its possible to. Just more of the same failed foreign policy making the average US citizen and the world less safe. The USA and others created this problem from 1953-1979. To think the USA is innocent or somehow justified in their current actions is laughable. I think this administration is now in way over its head at this point with no plan or real path forward. I think it thought after killing Ali Khamenei the remaining leadership would submit to the USA like Delcy Rodriguez did. Moreover, I think it is too chicken to insert ground forces and finish the disaster it started with the convenience of strategic bombing. Even if troops were sent in I don't think they would be successful. It would only embolden the Iranian citizens to fight a gruella war against US and Israel. Look to any past US exploits in the Middle East for evidence. A ground war in Iran, on Iranian soil would make the Iraq War look like a golf outing. My guess is the continual pressure on oil prices will become too much to bear and Trump will get on national TV and say the campaign was a success and leave behind a destroyed country, many dead, instability in the region, and an even more pissed off Iranian government which will be under the same leadership as he sought to topple. I think attacking Iran will have very serious long term consequences, none of which are in the US citizens' best interest. Iran will forever be aligned with China, who we are told is the "real enemy". Thinking the USA can squeeze them by toppling two countries that supply them with oil is not 3D chess. Its an embarrassing display of aggression that reaffirms to the world the bully the USA has been for the last 80 years. Nothing screams failed foreign policy and culpability like carpet bombing the the country your CIA corrupted for the previous 3 decades....... If true I only expect it to get worse and more frequent. Iran knows they are severely outclassed militarily. They will fight in unconventional ways against the US citizens and economy. I wouldn't rule out acts of terrorism by Iran or its proxies on the US mainland now. Actually, this was one regime change that worked out extremely well. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76444-the-iran-event/page/3/#findComment-592896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
67RModel Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 3 minutes ago, kscarbel2 said: Actually, this was one regime change that worked out extremely well. Up until it didn't. The reasons for which were the regime change itself. So no. It obviously didn't work out extremely well. The USA is not righteous. It is not the US CIA's place nor in the best interest of the US citizen to be out corrupting other countries with regimes we think are righteous. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76444-the-iran-event/page/3/#findComment-592897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted 3 hours ago Author Share Posted 3 hours ago 4 hours ago, 67RModel said: Up until it didn't. The reasons for which were the regime change itself. So no. It obviously didn't work out extremely well. The USA is not righteous. It is not the US CIA's place nor in the best interest of the US citizen to be out corrupting other countries with regimes we think are righteous. It worked extremely well until a radical faction made a power grab. From 1953 to 1979, it obviously did work extremely well. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76444-the-iran-event/page/3/#findComment-592904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
67RModel Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, kscarbel2 said: It worked extremely well until a radical faction made a power grab. Why did a radical faction make a power grab? Why have I never heard “death to Portugal” from the ayatollah? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76444-the-iran-event/page/3/#findComment-592905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joey Mack Posted 3 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 3 hours ago I get lost in all the back and forth... For decades, the Iranian Gov. Will kill its own people for protesting upwards of 30-50 thousand people.. They also want to eradicate Christians and Jews... Why would any U.S. Citizen support them.. They chant Death to America daily..... 1 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76444-the-iran-event/page/3/#findComment-592906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
67RModel Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 12 minutes ago, kscarbel2 said: From 1953 to 1979, it obviously did work extremely well. I guess one could say that if you were a corrupt US politician looking to exploit a developing country for your benefit. Take their natural resources. Sell them military hardware. Back door deals to line your pockets with. It probably did work extremely well. History has shown people don’t take kindly to someone coming into their country and “helping” them. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76444-the-iran-event/page/3/#findComment-592907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
67RModel Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 33 minutes ago, Joey Mack said: They chant Death to America daily..... But what do they say it? 33 minutes ago, Joey Mack said: Why would any U.S. Citizen support them I don’t think any of us could find any US citizens that support the Iranian government. Supporting the Iranian government and acknowledging US’s history with Iran while also acknowledging the current conflict will only make things worse are not remotely the same things 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76444-the-iran-event/page/3/#findComment-592909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago 54 minutes ago, 67RModel said: Why did a radical faction make a power grab? Why have I never heard “death to Portugal” from the ayatollah? Have a great day, my friend. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76444-the-iran-event/page/3/#findComment-592911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Ok.. thanks, but explain the pro Ayatholla protests that I see on mainstream media in large cities like N.Y.C. for example? I say they are probably paid to protest, but are portrayed as ligitimate protestors.... I am a simpleton... Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76444-the-iran-event/page/3/#findComment-592912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted 58 minutes ago Author Share Posted 58 minutes ago From 3:12 . Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76444-the-iran-event/page/3/#findComment-592926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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