AussieMack1988 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) Gday guys and Gals I have a few questions for all you MACK enthusiasts out there. My father and I bought an MACK MBR600 twin steer cab over tipper to cart grain around our properties in Central west NSW Australia. We have been unable to find ANY information on this truck or its lineage? Its an air start diesel with a 9 speed Road Ranger gearbox. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Cheers Edited August 26, 2021 by AussieMack1988 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Great choice I’m sure you will get lotta years out of it sorry can’t help you much but lots of other guys can on here .bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 What are you trying to find out ? I know they sold them here (Australia), not in huge numbers but numbers big enough I still see the odd truck about Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieMack1988 Posted August 26, 2021 Author Share Posted August 26, 2021 Hey thanks for the quick replies! Any information really? Motor size, maybe a place to find an online manual? Also is there any one out there who has converted this type of truck from air to electric start? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Not many convert to electric start in Australia but it has been done and is a pretty simple procedure I feel Dunno about online manuals but there is usually plenty of manuals, reproduction or original on line for sale Photos of the motor and the plate on the motor should be able to tell you all you need to know The chassis number is used for id in Australia on the older Macks like this even though most Mack dealers ask for the vin number they will soon go "it doesn't work" So the chassis number is stamped behind the leading drive wheel drivers side on Australia Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 The air start is a lot easier and cheaper to maintain but you do what you want with your truck … bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 It’s only got 2 major components… bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 70mackMB Posted August 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 27, 2021 Pictures!- Pictures!- Pictures! I need more WE need more pictures! lol Most all of the sales brochures, manuals, sales man spec sheets that l have were found on EBay. Say what you want, but that's a nice looking truck! Bent bumper and all! Ha .....Hippy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Ya what he says more photos… bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Ring the Phone Number on this Page... https://www.macktrucks.com.au/parts-and-services/support/gvm-gcm-upgrade-letter/ Make sure you have all the Numbers of the Plate inside the Cab. The Most Important one seem to be the M.S.R. (Mack Stock report) Number. I haven't done one for a fair While, But I have always found the Blokes who answer that Phone Number to be Approachable & helpful.. Is that Blue the Original Paint? Quote "Be who you are and say what you feel...Because those that matter...don't mind...And those that mind....don't matter." - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieMack1988 Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) Ok guys thanks so much for all your help! I am going to start getting the old girl harvest ready tomorrow. She hasn't started in 6 months so it's going to take some coaxing into life. Sadly it's a pretty rough old truck but tough. Eaton 9 speed is a great box to learn on! 😄 more photos tomorrow...please go easy on the judgement on the trucks condition. We bought it as a paddock truck! Edited August 27, 2021 by AussieMack1988 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Can’t be any worse than mine it needs everything we are looking forward to sharing them.. bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 If still the original Mack motor it shouldnt take much to bring to life. Due to air start, I would maybe pump the fuel primer and make sure its ready to fire. If it leaked down for some reason, pumping it up will help get it started quicker. Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 The same truck model in the US would be called MB. Your mark MBR means it's a MB built using R-model chassis as the most every Mack truck built in Australia was. So actually I expect finding a typical R-model chassis with typical (one of) in-line 6 cyl Mack engine (if it's a Mack engine) with a MB-model cab fitted on. I doubt it would be easy to find info on the particular model (but too possibly if someone in your country has a manual) but quite easy to find info on R-model chassis components and Mack engine. I'm pretty sure if you post some basic views of the engine and the chassis a lot of members on the forum would determine their kind and narrow down the search on the info sources. Vlad Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Joey Mack Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 The air starter on this truck should have the same bolt pattern as a 42 MT Delco starter.. I suggest using a 39 MT because its lighter and has gear reduction and will crank with weak batteries.. the air starter should be an Ingersoll Rand tire gun without the long anvil.... so to make the conversion. you could attach a battery tray, and (2-3) 925 amp. group 31 batts. and a simple push button start system, and rock-and-roll... jojo 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Just one thing JoJo, we dont call batteries by type this or that in Australia So apart from 925 amps, how big in physical size is the batteries so Aussiedog can make select the appropriate battery Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieMack1988 Posted August 28, 2021 Author Share Posted August 28, 2021 Would they equate to N70Z batteries dimension wise? The reason for the battery/ starter question is because we often don't have a compressor where we are. On a side note, I started the old girl today..bit of aero start and lots of air and off she chugged!! Now the air leaks/no brakes working/hi lo selector not working to solve! A few months before harvest...so I have a little time but any suggestions hints or tips are welcome! Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 I'd just use 3-4 N70 Batteries, they're as Common as ars Bellybuttons here in Australia.. Aussiemack, Back in the day EVERY Mack was Air start & they all carried a big long Air Hose with a Tyre Chuck one end use the Air in Your Tyres to charge the Start Tank.. Assuming all your Tyres have 100psi in them & the Air Tank equalises with the Tyre. 1st tyre give you 50 psi 2nd gives you 75psi. 3rd gives 87.5 psi which will(should) be enough to start the Old Girl then turn around & pump You tyres back Up.. 1 Quote "Be who you are and say what you feel...Because those that matter...don't mind...And those that mind....don't matter." - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Truck don’t look too bad at all same just mostly neglected good luck glad to see you got it running most important ha ha good deal… bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Vlad and Aussie Mack: Are you sure the last R in the model number refers to the R model chassis or to the Down Under right hand drive??????? Quote Brocky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 46 minutes ago, Brocky said: Vlad and Aussie Mack: Are you sure the last R in the model number refers to the R model chassis or to the Down Under right hand drive??????? Brocky, I belive so. We discussed the frame matter a few times and the turn out was every Mack built in Australia (and probably in NZ too but I'm not sure at the moment) used Eastern R-model frame rails. It is easy to see on pics with the bonnets/hoods open. R-model has quite distinguishing shape of the front portion of the rails so easy to recognize. As long as I remember Superliners used heavier (taller) R700 rails. I have no idea on were standart R-600 (9 inch) rails took place but seems too possibly. Pics show R's, RW, Valueliners both in-line and V8 and also F-models utilized those rails. Adding the point Aussie F-models were marked FR the matter gets a look of making sence. I should admit though all that doesn't relate to Renault-generic Macks. Definitly Aussie Mack Magnums used European wheels what means European hubs. So I'm about almost sure Magnums were complete Renault chassis/cabs. Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 10 hours ago, AussieMack1988 said: Would they equate to N70Z batteries dimension wise? The reason for the battery/ starter question is because we often don't have a compressor where we are. On a side note, I started the old girl today..bit of aero start and lots of air and off she chugged!! Now the air leaks/no brakes working/hi lo selector not working to solve! A few months before harvest...so I have a little time but any suggestions hints or tips are welcome! Cheers When I just need to start one of my Mack trucks, after long time in the most cases, it's enough to attach two 75-90 Ah batteries. It works for warm temps and for in-line engines, I just don't have any trucks with V8. You can spin electric starter for a total of couple of minutes before they show low down. Sure if you're going to use the truck for work it's better to put larger batteries. The air issues usually go off after finding and plumbing air leaks. But if they wouldn't you're in a need of investigation of the air brake components. Mostly valves and air line lay out. If you didn't do that work before it may require a bit of education. Once I got in such situation I googled "truck air brakes" and found a lot of articles with detailed description of the whole system operation and each valve design. Spent a couple of evenings reading and than figured the matter of the issues in less than a coule of hours. Had a few valves revised (freed up/cleaned) and a few air lines to swap. 1 Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 9 hours ago, Brocky said: Vlad and Aussie Mack: Are you sure the last R in the model number refers to the R model chassis or to the Down Under right hand drive??????? Vlad is correct Brocky..Mack Australia used the R Model chassis for everything.. 8 hours ago, Vladislav said: I should admit though all that doesn't relate to Renault-generic Macks. Definitly Aussie Mack Magnums used European wheels what means European hubs. So I'm about almost sure Magnums were complete Renault chassis/cabs. Vlad, I own one of those COE Magnums. They came into the country as Glider Kits. Cab, Chassis & Front Axle.& were fitted with the entire Drivetrain Here. It has the euro 335pcd Wheels all round.. The Quantums were a little bit Different. The early Ones came in as Glider Kits, & were quite problematic. the Later ones were CH Chassis fitted with the Quantum Cab, & where a far better Truck by All accounts.. Pretty sure there's a Thread (or 2-3) here about them.. Quote "Be who you are and say what you feel...Because those that matter...don't mind...And those that mind....don't matter." - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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