General Ike Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) A few months back I found the thread about Gettysburg's B85F that I now own after being a member of GFD during my college years....The attached photos are from my hometown department in Millwood, NY aprox 25 miles north of NYC. This B95F is one of only two tandem axle B model fire trucks built by Mack. The other being B95FSW 1161 which went to Gallery Chemical Co. in Pittsburgh, PA a few months after Millwood took delivery of theirs. This was a very progressive pumper for its day with 1500gal tank, the vast majority of equipment enclosed in compartments (including the hard suction, pike poles, and preconnects covered on the hose bed and the hose reels built into protected compartments on the rear step) as well as enclosed seating for 5ff's and an early version of a pre-piped foam eductor. It was re powered sometime in the 70's or 80's with a normally aspirated diesel (I forget which) converted to an automatic and had primitive power steering added. I rode on this rig to my first fire in 1993 and have a very fond place in my heart for it. It was replaced by a Kenworth 4 door, 3600 gallon pumper tanker in 1994 or 1995 and is now in a private collectors hands still in the Hudson Valley. I hope to re acquire the rig someday on behalf of the MFC and restore it to the level I did with Gettysburg's B85F and donate the truck back to MFC as a fully functional antique. Unfortunately from what I'm told it is nearly impossible to get a truck out of the gentlemen's collection who has it now although I'll try when finances permit.Enjoy Edited January 11, 2013 by General Ike 1 Quote Ed Smith1957 B85F 1242 "The General Ike" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB DINGSDALE Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 anyone know what the W stands for?never seen that on a chassis number for B model.my ljswx has it as well as the LMSW-Ms and Ls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Ike Posted January 11, 2013 Author Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) anyone know what the W stands for?never seen that on a chassis number for B model.my ljswx has it as well as the LMSW-Ms and LsI believe SW was for "Special Wheelbase" but I'm not 100%....EDIT... SW is for Six Wheel Chassis although technically it's a ten wheeler.... Edited January 11, 2013 by General Ike Quote Ed Smith1957 B85F 1242 "The General Ike" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Looks powerful and impressive.Definitely Six Wheels.Thanks. Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 That is quite a ride! What a monster!Wish you the best in your pursuit.Jim Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Ike Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 That is quite a ride! What a monster! Wish you the best in your pursuit. Jim Thanks ill post any progress Quote Ed Smith1957 B85F 1242 "The General Ike" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vision386 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Awsome truck! thanks for posting the pictures,i don't know much about fire apparatus (vintage or modern) but this is called a sedan style cab?..............................................Mark Quote Mack Truck literate. Computer illiterate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umodelnut Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Nice looking B. never seen one like that before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Ike Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 Awsome truck! thanks for posting the pictures,i don't know much about fire apparatus (vintage or modern) but this is called a sedan style cab?..............................................Mark Yes indeed it is a sedan model cab Quote Ed Smith1957 B85F 1242 "The General Ike" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogboy Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 General Ike: I've seen pictures of that Millwood Mack before; that's an impressive truck. On the cover of Harvey Eckart's book, "Mack Model B Fire Trucks" there is a picture of a tandem axle "B" model pumper built for the Pratt & Whitney Aircraft plant in Florida. On page 115 of the same book there is a photo of a semi-cab, tandem axle "B" model pumper built for McCandless Township, PA. Marsh Harbour Fire Brigade in the Bahamas has a 1958 tandem axle "B" model pumper. There is a photo of it on Marsh Harbour's website; the Mack is still lettered for the Maidstone Fire Department (?). Good luck with your endeavors in obtaining this truck. bulldogboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdnymackcf Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Was this the rig sitting on the Suffern/Mahwah border (rt 202, I think) right before the underpass? Quote If it ain't a Mack, it ain't Jack!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Ike Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 Was this the rig sitting on the Suffern/Mahwah border (rt 202, I think) right before the underpass? Doubt it... It's been on the east side of the river it's whole life. Quote Ed Smith1957 B85F 1242 "The General Ike" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Ike Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 Bulldogboy I am certainly aware of other tandem B fire apparatus. The Museum informed me that 1144 and 1161 were the only SW fire apparatus produced by the factory. I'd be curious to know if they are wrong or if the other rigs were built on a B chassis by a third party. Quote Ed Smith1957 B85F 1242 "The General Ike" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdnymackcf Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Doubt it... It's been on the east side of the river it's whole life.Then they're must have been 2..lol. There was a red an white B sedan tandem axle identical to that sitting in that lot. Obviously, paint was faded to boot. Quote If it ain't a Mack, it ain't Jack!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogboy Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Bulldogboy I am certainly aware of other tandem B fire apparatus. The Museum informed me that 1144 and 1161 were the only SW fire apparatus produced by the factory. I'd be curious to know if they are wrong or if the other rigs were built on a B chassis by a third party. I thought that maybe the other trucks had bodies built by someone else but I wondered why Harvey Eckart would use a Mack/non-Mack on the cover of his book. Mack certainly knows better than me how many trucks they built. It would be great if Millwood could get this truck back some day. I always like when a fire department maintains one (or more) of their old Mack fire trucks. bulldogboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
609albert Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 the collector that has your mack in n.y. first name ANDY ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfymn Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Probably Andy Lietner. Great collector and a very nice guy. Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Ike Posted January 14, 2013 Author Share Posted January 14, 2013 Probably Andy Lietner. Great collector and a very nice guy.Its up for debate... I thought it was in Andy's hands but I'm getting word that it may be in another collectors hands close to Andy's warehouse/museum. Quote Ed Smith1957 B85F 1242 "The General Ike" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FDNYTRUCKScom Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 SW-Special Wheelbase. only 2 were built as Fire Apparatus on B model Chassis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Trip Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I thought that maybe the other trucks had bodies built by someone else but I wondered why Harvey Eckart would use a Mack/non-Mack on the cover of his book. Mack certainly knows better than me how many trucks they built. It would be great if Millwood could get this truck back some day. I always like when a fire department maintains one (or more) of their old Mack fire trucks.Rescue Fire Co. #1 ,Dallastown P.A. now has their 1948 type 45 back at the fire co after being gone for 36 years..a restoration is now underway Roadtrip bulldogboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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