jaysm35a2 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Picture was labled as a " Mack Yard Truck" , would the be the graddaddy yard trailer switcher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullfuel01 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 origin of MR front end?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivetroad Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Origin of Lazyboy chairs? - that is one fancy seat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Maney Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I believe this was a tunnel support vehicle. Short wheelbase for turning around in the tight confines. It was probably fitted with a winch or two for lifting and tearing. the plated front end was for pushing disabled vehicles out of the tunnel. Through the 1990's and maybe even later, this equipment was mounted on MR chassis. Quote Interested in Old Trucks? Check out: www.antiquetruckclubofamerica.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 looks like a bear to operate,,all our yard hostlers have A.C. and power steering automatic trans,,,oh dont forget hydrolic fifth wheel,and automatic pin release...lol.bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaysm35a2 Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 Must be nice Bob we spot our own trailers with road trucks at our terminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Must be nice Bob we spot our own trailers with road trucks at our terminal.oh,,man you guys are slaves.lol.bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umodelnut Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 i wish i could find that today!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I believe this was a tunnel support vehicle. Short wheelbase for turning around in the tight confines. It was probably fitted with a winch or two for lifting and tearing. the plated front end was for pushing disabled vehicles out of the tunnel. Through the 1990's and maybe even later, this equipment was mounted on MR chassis.Tunnel truck would be 50's. In the early 60's NYC BTA went to International Transtars and that to MC and MR Macks. All the wrecker bodies are made by Weldbilt since 1964.NYCFD did experiment with ultra short bridge and tunnel and NYC Aviation crash Chemical rigs in the late 50's early 60's built by the NYCFD shops. Looking at the drivers seat which matches up with the rear steer ladder rigs and the "fire bell" next to the driver. It's more likely the unit is one of them. That was during the NYCFD extreme times....Mack F Super Pumper to the Micro Chem trucks. Paul Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vision386 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I'm gonna take an un-educated guess,but this looks to me like some early type railyard switcher? AK era judging by the wheels and pnuematic tires,kinda what they would use to load truck trailers onto a flatcar? I'm thinking its too early to be any type tunnel or recovery vehicle,but thats just a guess...............................Mark Quote Mack Truck literate. Computer illiterate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vision386 Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Tunnel truck would be 50's. In the early 60's NYC BTA went to International Transtars and that to MC and MR Macks. All the wrecker bodies are made by Weldbilt since 1964.NYCFD did experiment with ultra short bridge and tunnel and NYC Aviation crash Chemical rigs in the late 50's early 60's built by the NYCFD shops. Looking at the drivers seat which matches up with the rear steer ladder rigs and the "fire bell" next to the driver. It's more likely the unit is one of them. That was during the NYCFD extreme times....Mack F Super Pumper to the Micro Chem trucks. Paul Might be right Paul,i did'nt see the bell till i went back an looked at the picture again,tractor drawn tiller truck (hook and ladder) maybe?...................Mark Quote Mack Truck literate. Computer illiterate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfymn Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 My bet is that is a yard donkey used by the FDNY, or some other large city, mechanics to move rigs around the shop. Our shops had a similar rig they made out of an old school bus chassis. And while it appears to be an MC or MR I also wouldn't be surprised to find out it was a C or even CF model aerial tractor that had been wrecked and given new life by the shops.If it were intended for a suppression use it would have some type of warning devices such as a siren and red lights in addition to the bell. It also lacks any kind of fire fighting capability. Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I think the tires, the hubs, etc. predate, or shortly date after WW2 myself. I've had several trucks that have set for 35 plus years with the same tread pattern as the steer axle on this unit has. It looks to be some type of interplant "mule", but what for I don't know. Old Caterpillar photos show a bell mounted on some of their units used internally within the plants for moving new machinery around so I'm not swayed it is a fire bell but could be very wrong. You gotta remember we didn't always have electronic movement alarms. Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaysm35a2 Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 With those heavy duty early front and rear axles you guys think it was a MR? I figutred it was a 1950's built truck that just happens to have a front grille area that looks like a MR. Looks likea good job too , looks like they pin stripped alot on it and all.Edit, I typed my reply the same time as Rob. I with you Rob , its way older than a MR. Ive seen the front and rear axles on a L and B model before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivetroad Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I just looked at the photo again and I had missed the two hooks hanging down on the front by the radiator, about even with the middle of the headlights. Those must be winches on the front - I doubt if a fire truck had those.The bell plays tricks with my poor eyes - is it a bell or a light by the factory wall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vision386 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I think the tires, the hubs, etc. predate, or shortly date after WW2 myself. I've had several trucks that have set for 35 plus years with the same tread pattern as the steer axle on this unit has. It looks to be some type of interplant "mule", but what for I don't know. Old Caterpillar photos show a bell mounted on some of their units used internally within the plants for moving new machinery around so I'm not swayed it is a fire bell but could be very wrong. You gotta remember we didn't always have electronic movement alarms.Rob Thats what i think,the rolling stock looks pre-war to me,then look at the way the seats upholstered,and the steering wheel,all consistant with AK era trucks....again,just an un-educated guess on my part....................Mark Quote Mack Truck literate. Computer illiterate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Just when you start talking about these, one pops up on ebay................http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PORT-AUTHORITY-NY-NJ-MR-MACK-TUNNEL-BRIDGE-TOW-TRUCK-/130622363786?pt=Commercial_Trucks&hash=item1e69b3188a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dak49 Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Could it have been used to move airplanes? It kinda looks like something that could move a 727. Just a guess on my part though.Dak49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaddeusW Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 What interests me more is what is on the back. Those two pillars appear to latch onto something OR they are very stubby winch booms. I bet its a custom wrecker, maybe it was used for tunnel work. The Holland Tunnel opened in 1927 and the Queens-Midtown in 1940 and the Lincoln Tunnel in 1937. So the truck could very well be an early tunnel wrecker or test truck.Plus the push bumper is a sure sign of it being a wrecker. Quote -Thad What America needs is less bull and more Bulldog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfymn Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I still think it's connected to an FD or maybe a fire apparatus maker, possibly Mack.The pic is identified as a Mack yard tractor, but there is no obvious markings that identify it as a Mack. I wonder if the title is meant to indicate it is a yard tractor used at Mack, not a yard tractor made by Mack. (although I'm sure it would have been a Mack in that case)Anybody recognize the building in the background as being the old Mack factory in Allentown where they assembled the fire apparatus? Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB DINGSDALE Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 you should send picture to Mr. Shoemaker ar Mack museum and get a proper varification on it.it could be for towing the large seaplanes around in the 30's and 40's.Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveigou Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I been loosing sleep over this, but I finally got up enough nerve to go out on a limb here, but, I think it could very well be something used inside the plant, maybe Mack, maybe somewhere else, seems like it's built to run in tight quarters, and prolly the bell is like the warning alarm of the day. I've seen crawler tractors with rubber track pads built for that purpose, that's my guess. What do you guys think? Quote See my Flickr photostream page http://www.flickr.com/photos/96692978@N05/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Maney Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I believe this was a tunnel support vehicle. Short wheelbase for turning around in the tight confines. It was probably fitted with a winch or two for lifting and tearing. the plated front end was for pushing disabled vehicles out of the tunnel. Through the 1990's and maybe even later, this equipment was mounted on MR chassis.I shared the photo with Don at the Mack Trucks Historical Museum and Harvey Eckart, a Mack Fire Apparatus Historian. Each agreed that it was probably a tunnel support vehicle out of the New York Port Authority. They purchased so much equipment that it may be difficult to pin any info down without specifics. Quote Interested in Old Trucks? Check out: www.antiquetruckclubofamerica.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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