Red Horse

Well talk about contrasts. I had Fox on this morning and we are watching the prayer service. I then go to "my space" (or wife's "craft space") and continue watching as Fox then continues news coverage. Go back downstairs and wife has CNN on and of course they are giving all kinds of glowing coverage to the real big story of the day, the Womens March! They cut to Boston Common and Pocahontas Warren is in the middle of one of her favorite rants on the right of everyone to a free college education. Guaranteed the "march" will get all the network news coverage today. I guess if there IS a bright side to all of this, the March Loons ( Warren, Michael Moore, Gloria Steinem etc.) did plenty of bashing of the "old school Democrats as well and... "we have to throw them out too." Hmnn. no mention made of putting an honest candidate up the next time. Hopefully all of this bullshit will keep the Donald on his toes

bbob61, Thx for including my '61X in such good company. But don't hide your light under a bushel basket! Saw your 61X in the ATCA 45 Yearbook-How about a couple of pix of that? My green is " Adirondack"- got that spec from Art at John Haines shop as I always admired their fleet color.

When in doubt, look it up; New Departure Manufacturing Company Media 1931 New Departure poster I was there... Tell us your story > Written by Bill Bowman New Departure Bell Company was formed in 1888 by brothers Albert and Edward Rockwell in Bristol, Connecticut as a manufacturer of doorbells. They began operations at one end of a clock factory, manufacturing doorbells. Soon after, they branched out manufacturing various other products. In 1898, New Departure introduced the bicycle coaster brake and in 1903 they also began making brakes for belt and chain-driven motorcycles. Large quantities of bicycle front and rear wheel hubs were produced. In 1904, the Rockwells produced an automobile and then in 1907, the Rockwell Taxi Cab. In 1911, the automobile production ceased. In 1912, Albert organized the Yellow Cab Company, which went into receivership in 1913. In 1908, New Departure developed the double row bearing capable of handling both radial and thrust loads from either direction and in 1909 obtained a patent for it. In 1910, the company developed the angular contact or Radax single row bearing that took radial loads, as well as thrust loads from one direction. In 1916, New Departure, Hyatt Roller Bearing, Westom-Mott Axle, Remy Electric Company, Perriman Rim Company and Dayton Engineering Laboratories were purchased by William Durant, president of General Motors, and put under the United Motors Corporation name with Alfred Sloan as President. In 1918, General Motors acquired United Motors outright with Sloan becoming a GM Vice President and in 1923 he became the President of General Motors. During World War II, New Departure produced ultra precision instrument bearings that were used in the Norden Bombsight, one of the U.S. Air Forces most powerful weapons. In the 1950s, New Departure invented the Roller Clutch used in automatic transmissions, allowing for smoother shifting. In 1965, General Motors merged the New Departure Division and the Hyatt Roller Bearing Division into the New Departure-Hyatt Bearing Division. In 1986, New Departure-Hyatt Bearing exited the commercial ball bearing business, retaining only the ultra-precision aircraft engine bearing segment. In 1989, New Departure-Hyatt Bearing Division and Delco Moraine Division were merged to create Delco Moraine-NDH Division. In 1992, the Delco Moraine-NDH Division merged with Delco Products and became Delco Chassis Division. In 1993, the aircraft bearing operation was discontinued ending the era of bearing manufacture. Today, New Departure and Hyatt are brands owned and sold by General Bearing Company of New York. Click here to view excerpt from Delco Moraine New Departure-Hyatt Presentation booklet

And what did they make there??

Yes- that was the "Blue Mule" I referred to- If the one you drove had the range selector bolted to the floor you had a mechanic who ran out of air hose when he was replacing the valve. I drove one in my "youth" for a few days when my 4564 White was down-a " canary"- Ryder- in the early days- I thought it was great! But I admit-a prejudiced Ford kid!

You referring to the BS on TBN?

I think this subject must have a good story-that is to come out with the B with its small confining cab, versus keeping the L-with its spacious cab, high seating position, good sightlines. And as for the BBC issue, the C solved that. There had to be an internal battle at Mack over this decision. If nothing else, logic would have said to me.."ok the L is old-lets keep what's good-visibility, room and upgrade the rest. If we are still long in the tooth, we can go to plan "B"-pun intended. How about it KSC-any history you can share?

Nice but should have been another-the "Blue Mule"-but I guess that was wrecked in last scene?

Saw a bit of Tillerson's hearing this PM. Thought he did a good job and was credible. If Trump thinks he has a lap dog he has the wrong guy IMO

Blackdog2...New Departure- didn't they have a big presence in Meriden or New Britain????

KSC- good news for sure for one of the last " American" heavy truck builders-let's hope the VW deal is just that-an "alliance" vs an ultimate takeover. As for the GM JV, that is just class 4 and 5???

Well I had to listen to my wife this morning on Streep's "wonderful" speech and in particular the comment about him mocking the disabled The sad fact is, the Donald then Tweets he never mocked the guy! Or so its been reported that is what he said. You did Donald. I may be a "deplorable", I may be old, but my memory is NOT that bad - yet! Kellyanne - If in fact he did say that, you have to do something. WTF is this guy thinking? He continues to make it tough for those who voted for him in spite of some of his completely dumb ass comments.

Well I haven't been paying too much attention to this until the other day. Talk about a "bold plan"! I have to say though, when you get the likes of Ryder and Meritor in on the ground floor, you have done a lot for your credibility. And the guy just doesn't let it go at building a truck! His comments about load matching and all that other stuff. Not only is he going to build you a truck, he is going to get rid of the carrier you were leased to, the broker you did business with etc etc.

I think the only thing Stanley still makes in New Britain are steel tapes. Sad. You yuking it up or was " Stanley" a Polish immigrant??? I think Stanley also just bought the tool line that was aquired by Newell-Rubbermaid.

As always Kevin thx for the response.

So-didn't know they HAD a plant in Canada- these knockdown kits?? only cab overs?

Agree-bottom line IMO is it is good news for US workers. When 1.6 billion DOESN'T get built in Mexico, that is good news for the US economy. If nothing else, it is one less option Ford will have in the future when it comes to sourcing decisions. Better to have spent 700 mil in US than 1.6 billion in Mexico. And one thing that is consistent- Ford has said they can't profitably build a low 20 grand vehicle in US.. You can bet these new vehicles will have an average transaction price well north of 20 grand.

congratulations Jack-the ultimate "stocking stuffer"

Paul, Thx for all the detective work. Lot of history there. Also nice shot of the MB hooked to a vintage short Mack corporate trailer. Chevy wrecker in photo is like 63? 64?

Thx Paul-but you get my point. the restored car in that picture for sure does not have a driving truck in front and the one in the back looks like a conventional non driving truck too. Again I have no clue-just thinking of what a typical truck looks like say on an old school locomotive like an RS-1 or one of those 1500 HP GM yard switchers

What I'm wondering is just how was it powered? Those "trucks"look like the typical truck you would see on a boxcar vs a traction motor driving the wheels????

I think the big difference is when we were kids you listened to one forecast on your radio station or TV station of choice. Today with multiple channels the hype gets built up-and I'm guilty of surfing the channels and comparing forecasts. Then we have the phone aps-which I have to admit, are pretty accurate. We are about 2 or 3 miles NW of 495 which always seems to be the "cut line" for heavier snow and its true. We ended up with about 2 or 3 inches of slush as it kept jumping back from rain to snow while 10 miles away they had over 10.

10-4 Bob. Spokes forever-for sure on a Mack of that vintage. Also my preference would also be to lose the visor. But to each his own. When I was doing my B over I went out and bought a couple of new single Grovers. Then I got to thinking-after looking at bunch of old pics/ads. Took the Grovers back and got the conventional duals- then agonized over pictures- again on the "correct" mounting position. In any case beautiful truck for sure

UGh- 15 yards for unnecessary roughness!

Sad news for sure. A true Mack guy and a good example of why we enjoy our "hobby" to the degree we do. My first contact with him was a number of years ago when his now restored B-81 single axle had been sitting on Rt. 70 with a bunch of other trucks-unrestored. The truck always caught my eye and I finally stopped by one day to look it over when a DM 10 wheeler pulled in and I stopped the driver to find out who owned this Mack. He gave me Mike's name and town, I called "information" and as luck would have it, got the right number on the first shot. So I called him and we must have talked for 30 or 40 minutes-and at the end of the conversation he had my hat size! And I knew I could not afford that truck. But I was so impressed that he took the time to talk to this "new guy" who obviously had no clue. Later on he came to my house with his pal "Merc" to check out some stuff I was selling but it was a no sale-but just a good day having him show up to talk trucks. End result guys, enjoy the relationships you have today. Bob