Popular Post Mack guy Ata Posted January 9 Popular Post Share Posted January 9 Some background info: Bought the truck in Turkey and I'm in Turkey. These trucks are extremely rare and expensive here since 2016 this one was the 2nd one to be sold. I'm a 26 year old who loves old trucks and was recently able to afford this B85 but i have almost 0 experience with old truck operation and restoration but I'm experienced at classic car operation and restoration. So i need help identifying internal pull/push switches and their functions. some of them i was able to figure out easy other i need help. almost all of them have no labels on them I have numbered the switches in the attached images 1- Stops the engine 2- ? 3- ? 4- ? 5- ? 6- ? 7- İgnition 8- Handbrake 9- İncreases idle rpm 10- ? ( it says run - park on it) 11- Emergency engine stop Any other wisdom about operation of these B series would be much appreciated. Thank you 4 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76304-just-purchased-a-1956-b85-looking-for-some-help-identifying-internal-pullpush-switches/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
67RModel Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 10 is the windshield wipers. looks like it was a fire truck so the other switches could be a litany of things. Lights, sirens, etc 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76304-just-purchased-a-1956-b85-looking-for-some-help-identifying-internal-pullpush-switches/#findComment-588742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution 70mackMB Posted January 9 Solution Share Posted January 9 Mack guy Ata, Welcome to BMT! Good job with the pictures. l also think it was a fire truck having the red steering wheel. As far as switches, As 67RModel said they could be anything. Best to follow the wires from the dash to where ever they go. #2? - #3 headlights - #4? look factory installed. #5? - #6? - #7? installed later - #8 maxi brake? - #9 cigarette lighter? - #11? .....Hippy 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76304-just-purchased-a-1956-b85-looking-for-some-help-identifying-internal-pullpush-switches/#findComment-588747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Wow great find and welcome aboard….bob … Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76304-just-purchased-a-1956-b85-looking-for-some-help-identifying-internal-pullpush-switches/#findComment-588750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I would just pull them all and see what they do your not gonna hurt anything… probably some of them are disconnected.. good luck… bob 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76304-just-purchased-a-1956-b85-looking-for-some-help-identifying-internal-pullpush-switches/#findComment-588751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Welcome to BMT!!!! Another country heard from??? I do not think we have anybody from Turkey to compliment our Russian, Irish, Dutch, and Aussie participants. B-85 should have been a fire truck originally?? #4 looks like the factory headlight switch, #6 if that is a handle on it, might be a hand throttle or PTO engagement?? If it has a cable follow it.. #11 might also be the hand throttle??? 2 Quote Brocky Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76304-just-purchased-a-1956-b85-looking-for-some-help-identifying-internal-pullpush-switches/#findComment-588752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogboy Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 All the "B-85F" fire trucks that I have seen have a battery selection switch and push buttons to start. This one looks like it has a key slot. Also, I wonder about the air cleaner and exhaust locations, not sure if those would be on a fire chassis. Having said that maybe the Macks built overseas (Iran?) were different than their US counterparts. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76304-just-purchased-a-1956-b85-looking-for-some-help-identifying-internal-pullpush-switches/#findComment-588754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack guy Ata Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 Thank you everybody for the warm welcome and kind words very happy to be a part of BMT. Also a huge thank to all the answers i got from you guya very helpful information and i was suspecting that it was a fire turck too. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76304-just-purchased-a-1956-b85-looking-for-some-help-identifying-internal-pullpush-switches/#findComment-588757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vladislav Posted January 9 Popular Post Share Posted January 9 Welcome to the group and greetings from Russia! Which part of Turkey are you in? I used to travel over your country a few times in the past. The Eastern areas recently the most. The truck looks very nice and definitly rare in your country nowadays. I was told there were many of them in the past but they seem gone. B-85 must be a firetruck from the factory but looking the picture the chassis more seems to me as a normal commercial truck or tractor. Too possibly someone put the cab with front end off a fire truck onto different chassis. The answer could be recieved reading the chassis number. Normally it is stamped into RH frame rail just behind the right front wheel. Starts with B-85... or B-61 or B-53 etc. Sorry no help about the dash switchews from my side besides what the guys already said. Cool looking truck, congratulations on the purchase! Vlad 2 1 Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76304-just-purchased-a-1956-b85-looking-for-some-help-identifying-internal-pullpush-switches/#findComment-588759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Welcome to the forum I'm guessing the lads here are right, was a fire truck and was extended and made into bogie drive Paul 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76304-just-purchased-a-1956-b85-looking-for-some-help-identifying-internal-pullpush-switches/#findComment-588776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 I think Vlad and Paul are mostly tight.. Most fire trucks were build as single axle drives, unless it was to be a tanker or VERY heavy pumper.. You will have to find the serial # on the frame to identify it further. It is very possible that the first restorer put that cab and hood with the B-85 emblem on another twin screw tractor chassis????? If you can find the number, send it to the Mack museum ( with a donation) and they can tell you how it left the factory. 2 Quote Brocky Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76304-just-purchased-a-1956-b85-looking-for-some-help-identifying-internal-pullpush-switches/#findComment-588778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mack guy Ata Posted January 10 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 10 Thank you all. Yeah Vlad back in the day before i was even born there were planty of B seris mack in turkey but 80-90% of them were sadlt crushed for 2 reason people had no idea how to maintain them and operate them there for they were all very beatn up and 2nd is eveyone tought they were wothles and just junked them. Most classic cars suffered the same fate as these beautiful trukcs did. Thanks for the tip Brocky. I will get in touch with them with a donation. A very odd think is there are no signs of a 5 th wheel ever been connected on the truck but i might be wrong im young and have much to learn about classic trucks 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76304-just-purchased-a-1956-b85-looking-for-some-help-identifying-internal-pullpush-switches/#findComment-588782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladislav Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, Mack guy Ata said: Thank you all. Yeah Vlad back in the day before i was even born there were planty of B seris mack in turkey but 80-90% of them were sadlt crushed for 2 reason people had no idea how to maintain them and operate them there for they were all very beatn up and 2nd is eveyone tought they were wothles and just junked them. Most classic cars suffered the same fate as these beautiful trukcs did. Thanks for the tip Brocky. I will get in touch with them with a donation. A very odd think is there are no signs of a 5 th wheel ever been connected on the truck but i might be wrong im young and have much to learn about classic trucks That's an interesting point of no signs of the 5th wheel ever installed. Iranians still have plenty B-models straight trucks with long wheel base and cargo body in operation. But those assembled in Iran have industrial style front grille with shutters in the most cases. I'm pretty sure you will make many discoveries about yout truck since it is not young and definitely keeps some history. If you make more pictures of it (chassis, engine compartment, front axle) people on here might share some useful info about it I belive. 2 Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76304-just-purchased-a-1956-b85-looking-for-some-help-identifying-internal-pullpush-switches/#findComment-588783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Geoff Weeks Posted January 10 Popular Post Share Posted January 10 Back in that time period, it was common for a 5th wheel to be mounted with U bolts around the frame. Wood spacer block inside the C channel, and 5/8" U bolts around the frame. Much the same way truck bodies are mounted. No mounting angle on the side of the frame. I have one in my yard that is mounted that way. Very little to show if it is removed and the frame painted. A tractor protection valve and a trolly valve on the steering column would be indications it might have been a tractor at some point. 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76304-just-purchased-a-1956-b85-looking-for-some-help-identifying-internal-pullpush-switches/#findComment-588788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mack guy Ata Posted January 11 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 11 I was just able to bring it home it was behind a tow truck because it was in no condition to be driven 1600km (995 miles) I will share more photos of it. Im even making new discoveries about it just by talking to you guys. Will keep the BMT community updated on my discoveries. Thats very interesting Geoff never heard of u bolt 5th wheel mounts but that might have been the case or its just my lack of truck knowledge making me believe there wasnt a 5th wheel I tried to add some photos of the frame but for some reason upload fails. I will try again when im connected to the wifi 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76304-just-purchased-a-1956-b85-looking-for-some-help-identifying-internal-pullpush-switches/#findComment-588823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Ata, If/when you reach your picture limit try using the free Postimage.com website and/or send Barry the membership fee ($75) USD. Quote Brocky Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76304-just-purchased-a-1956-b85-looking-for-some-help-identifying-internal-pullpush-switches/#findComment-588827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Geoff Weeks Posted January 11 Popular Post Share Posted January 11 Here are some pictures of a 5th wheel mounted with U bolts. It also has manual slider lock release. I wonder how many time it was slid even if it needed to be? 5 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76304-just-purchased-a-1956-b85-looking-for-some-help-identifying-internal-pullpush-switches/#findComment-588838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vladislav Posted January 11 Popular Post Share Posted January 11 A couple more pics from the net representing the subject. It's an L-model not a B. But about the similar time frame. If you look well you can note the U-bolt passes a hole in the chassis skird at the inner side of the frame rail. I expect of your truck also having those holes in the corresponded areas. 5 Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76304-just-purchased-a-1956-b85-looking-for-some-help-identifying-internal-pullpush-switches/#findComment-588851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post D2Denny Posted January 12 Popular Post Share Posted January 12 You have a very rare Mack. Per the attached build summary only 77 were ever made. Had the pleasure to visit your country and Istanbul a few years back. It's one of the great cities of the world. Welcome aboard. 3 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76304-just-purchased-a-1956-b85-looking-for-some-help-identifying-internal-pullpush-switches/#findComment-588878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseliner64 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Welcome to the group and greetings from Ireland.Thats a fine B model you have got there and it seems to be a rare one too.Best of luck with it and keep us updated on your progress....oh and more photos please,we love photos..... Paul 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76304-just-purchased-a-1956-b85-looking-for-some-help-identifying-internal-pullpush-switches/#findComment-589028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mack guy Ata Posted 8 hours ago Author Popular Post Share Posted 8 hours ago Thank you everyone. - Brocky thanks for the tip. - Geoff weeks and Valdislav Thanks for the photos. Judgeing from them and where i have holes on my trucks back at one point it did have a 5th wheel mounted with U bolts -D2Denny thanks for the list its very helpful and very glad to know that i got a rare one - cruiseliner 64. Thank you very much. I will be uploading photos. And Im terribly sorry for my late respons had a crazy busy couple of weeks 1 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76304-just-purchased-a-1956-b85-looking-for-some-help-identifying-internal-pullpush-switches/#findComment-590561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mechohaulic Posted 6 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 6 hours ago the mounting of 5th wheels with U-bolts carried into the 60's plus. number one R-model (R607T-1001)located in CT , has the U-bolts. 2 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76304-just-purchased-a-1956-b85-looking-for-some-help-identifying-internal-pullpush-switches/#findComment-590566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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