Popular Post TeamsterGrrrl Posted November 27, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2016 Black Friday gets more depressing every year... I soldier through several hardware stores, Home Depot, Sears, etc. in search of serviceable tools and stuff that ain't junk that won't last the winter, never mind till next black friday. The only thing approaching a good deal was an american made needle nose pliers, hammer, and saw blades. Sears had nothing but acres of imported Craftsman tools, a sad fate for such once respectable brands. Homer's provided free Wi-Fi and little else. I've had it with "new"... I've got enough cars and just about everything else to last the rest of my life. We're a nation that has reached "peak stuff", and our garages are too full of stuff to fit a bike never mind a car. Spare bedrooms, attics, and basements full of stuff are further testimony to that. To say nothing of all the stuff that drives the booming storage rental industry... Where the heck did all this stuff come from? A century ago we couldn't afford much stuff and there was no "easy credit", so we bought what we needed and made it last. Come the twenties and banks started financing houses, and we overextended ourselves into a depression. Fast forward through the depression and second world war, and the politicians were worried that the returning soldiers would find no jobs and we'd be right back in a depression. So they juiced the economy with GI and FHA home loans, while GM had invented whole social stratas of car makes with planned obsolescence to market them and GMAC to finance them. 'Bout as soon as someone figured out how to put magnetic info on a plastic card, the big banks got us junkied out on credit cards, to the tune of about $10,000 of debt for the average american today. So here we sit a century later, a western world with more bedrooms than we got people, a big screen TV in every one of those bedrooms and a 'puter too. We've got more cars than drivers, and hordes of computers in all sizes. Same with our lives- We've paid for college degrees we'll never use, and we're struggling to pay them back on low paid jobs that require little more than a pulse and not too much attitude. The mantra of blind consumerism plays on, long after the jobs we were trying to save left, and we're left to clean up all the dead electronics and abandoned inner cities. Black friday was a flop, small business saturday was a step in the right direction, now lets celebrate sustainable sunday. Let's fix something... The LEED standards tell us that the greenest house is a rehabbed house, with as much of the original house reused as possible. The GREET standard developed by Argonne National Laboratory which takes into account the total carbon footprint of a vehicle from production through scraping tells us that even the greenest hybrid or electric car accomplishes nothing for the planet unless it replaces one that is totally, utterly, and completely worn out beyond repair. Same for education- I got a bachelors degree, but the knowledge I used most was DIY skills I've picked up through life. And while they can move manufacturing jobs to the other side of the planet, repairing, reuse, rebuilding, and rehabbing creates jobs here that can't be exported. So hell with the mall... Let's fix something! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 the problem is manufactures don't want you to fix any thing anymore, spent 2/3 of the day on the puter trying to find parts for a 30 year old tractor. Its too old for the dealer to supply parts and too new for the vintage or classic guys to carry them. never thought a 70 hp. international tractor that sold in the tens of thousands would be obsolete! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrsmackpaul Posted November 29, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2016 7 minutes ago, gearhead204 said: the problem is manufactures don't want you to fix any thing anymore, spent 2/3 of the day on the puter trying to find parts for a 30 year old tractor. Its too old for the dealer to supply parts and too new for the vintage or classic guys to carry them. never thought a 70 hp. international tractor that sold in the tens of thousands would be obsolete! Were have you tried I get a lot of my Inter parts from Texas to Australia quicker and better than dealing with CaseIH in Australia Abliene Machine is the place I use http://www.abilenemachine.com/ they give me good service to the other side of the world better than CaseIH Australia I go and see the local dealer "Oh that old thing" they say I reply under my breath f--- you anyway good luck Paul 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 What is it and what do you need for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I used to work for the dealership I use. We sourced Case IH parts, Case IH vintage parts and dealer parts network (dpn). I found they must have parts thru several sources but I can't get a replacement wiring harness, dash plate or the dash side cowling (plastic crap the sun has killed). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) wiring harness # 3125849r92 dash panel #3121701r3 l.h. panel 3121711r4 and r.h. panel 3121712r3 ....the tractor is a international harvester 84 hydro ser# 005019 Edited November 29, 2016 by gearhead204 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) ok if you been thru all that and still can`t find pieces i most likely don`t have a source either. but i`ll run those numbers by my guy in bridgewater lawrence equipt and see what he can come up with he has access to lots of nos Edited November 29, 2016 by carlotpilot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I'm sure its out there ..........just might be in a landfill I would be a pack rat if I worked at dpn. I know every so often they would dump excessive old stock that didn't sell, the problem is some of the stuff you don't need for 20+ years after it was built. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, gearhead204 said: I'm sure its out there ..........just might be in a landfill I would be a pack rat if I worked at dpn. I know every so often they would dump excessive old stock that didn't sell, the problem is some of the stuff you don't need for 20+ years after it was built. there are bunches of guys around here that are deep into older tractors and most of our local farmers still use older stuff so there seems to be lots of parts around. just have to find them. pa. has lots western md. as well as va .and wva. bet we can find that stuff some where. how about red power? Edited November 29, 2016 by carlotpilot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GA_Dave Posted November 29, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2016 I sure am glad you guys turned this thread into something useful and constructive! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, GA_Dave said: I sure am glad you guys turned this thread into something useful and constructive! guess we did kinda hijak it sorry bout that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I read that lines of people waiting for stores to open were a rarity this year. The article said many people shopped online instead. That said, I saw few good specials online this year. The good items that you'd want to buy were either not on sale, or had modest discounts that are available throughout the year. Last year, I waited until Black Friday to buy a wide range of items (online) and did very well. But not this year. I'm getting annoyed with Amazon in the way they constantly fluctuate the prices. I watched an item fluctuate between $191 and $239 no less than four times in a 24-hour period. I've zero tolerance for that way of doing business. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 Hijack away! I first wrote this for a gearhead blog, then submitted it to a big very "liberal" website just for shits and giggles... They loved it and kept it on their front page for two days! Just goes to show that folks across the political spectrum are tired of the Chinese junk and rebuilding the old stuff instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA_Dave Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 There was no sarcasm implied in my comment, I was dead serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 10 hours ago, carlotpilot said: there are bunches of guys around here that are deep into older tractors and most of our local farmers still use older stuff so there seems to be lots of parts around. just have to find them. pa. has lots western md. as well as va .and wva. bet we can find that stuff some where. how about red power? I love my red power! even if part of it is yellow (2410b) the red is two hydro 84's I have a new Kubota and an 09 case ih 105u, but my favorite is the hydro, having the orchard I spend a lot of hours spraying and that is the most comfortable tractor to spend the day on! after 4-5 hours on the kubota I have to get off of it for a while (feel like a monkey riding a football) but they are the most dependable "new" tractor for the orchard application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 After 6 years of living in the country I'm still shopping for my first tractor. My favorite is the N series Fords, but they're too heavy for my Ranger pickup with it's 3500 pound tow rating to haul around. Then I saw the little Japanese built Ford 1100s and 1200s that Ford sold during the 80s and 90s, and fell in love- Lighter than an 8N, diesel power, and all wheel drive wrapped in Ford blue! Then I saw the prices... Half the price of a new Kubota or Yanmar powered Deere for a quarter century old tractor? I'm running into the same outrageous pricing for most all the old tractors, other than the really too big tractors or the 8Ns- Heck, I've seen a ratty Kubota that wouldn't even start go for $2K! The IH Cubs are light enough for my pickup to haul, but the implement options are limited. So looks like I'll finally have to break down and buy new, hard to justify spending $5k on a two or three decade old Ford, Kubota, or Yanmar/Deere when I can get a new BX18 Kubota for $9k or a Deere/Yanmar 1 series for not much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 6 hours ago, TeamsterGrrrl said: After 6 years of living in the country I'm still shopping for my first tractor. My favorite is the N series Fords, but they're too heavy for my Ranger pickup with it's 3500 pound tow rating to haul around. Then I saw the little Japanese built Ford 1100s and 1200s that Ford sold during the 80s and 90s, and fell in love- Lighter than an 8N, diesel power, and all wheel drive wrapped in Ford blue! Then I saw the prices... Half the price of a new Kubota or Yanmar powered Deere for a quarter century old tractor? I'm running into the same outrageous pricing for most all the old tractors, other than the really too big tractors or the 8Ns- Heck, I've seen a ratty Kubota that wouldn't even start go for $2K! The IH Cubs are light enough for my pickup to haul, but the implement options are limited. So looks like I'll finally have to break down and buy new, hard to justify spending $5k on a two or three decade old Ford, Kubota, or Yanmar/Deere when I can get a new BX18 Kubota for $9k or a Deere/Yanmar 1 series for not much more. I dunno about in the States, but farm tractors hold their value real good here. Even ones 30 years old are still worth good money. This will change as all the electronics on them will become the thing that fails, and we will end up with tractors parked because you can't get boards for them anymore. Sad but true I feel. Paul 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I always liked the International Cub 154 "low-boy". Never a more serious lawn tractor. It had a 15-horsepower liquid-cooled L-head 4-cylinder International C60 engine (59.5 cu.in.). . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 4 hours ago, mrsmackpaul said: I dunno about in the States, but farm tractors hold their value real good here. Even ones 30 years old are still worth good money. This will change as all the electronics on them will become the thing that fails, and we will end up with tractors parked because you can't get boards for them anymore. Sad but true I feel. Paul Paul, the 125 hp. and less tractors are holding their value well here the larger hp. tractors drop pretty good after 10,000 hours or 20 years. A good case Ih Magnum 7130 mfd with 7-8000 hours is worth around 30-35k a newer mx255 with duals front and rear with 4-5000 hours will bring around 50-55k , a 300 + hp steiger like a 9150 can be had for 30k, some times less, combines seam to face plant rather quickly what was a 170k machine will be a 30k machine in 10 years or less and only have 3-4k hours on the machine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Those figures arent to far off here either if you took the exchange rate into it you can buy a lot of tractor for not a lot of money these days and still do a full days work with them day in day out air con cabs quiet power shift all the things you need for not a lot of coin Paul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 15 hours ago, TeamsterGrrrl said: After 6 years of living in the country I'm still shopping for my first tractor. My favorite is the N series Fords, but they're too heavy for my Ranger pickup with it's 3500 pound tow rating to haul around. Then I saw the little Japanese built Ford 1100s and 1200s that Ford sold during the 80s and 90s, and fell in love- Lighter than an 8N, diesel power, and all wheel drive wrapped in Ford blue! Then I saw the prices... Half the price of a new Kubota or Yanmar powered Deere for a quarter century old tractor? I'm running into the same outrageous pricing for most all the old tractors, other than the really too big tractors or the 8Ns- Heck, I've seen a ratty Kubota that wouldn't even start go for $2K! The IH Cubs are light enough for my pickup to haul, but the implement options are limited. So looks like I'll finally have to break down and buy new, hard to justify spending $5k on a two or three decade old Ford, Kubota, or Yanmar/Deere when I can get a new BX18 Kubota for $9k or a Deere/Yanmar 1 series for not much more. what I cant figure out is a side by side UTV costs more than a compact tractor, a whole lot more machining goes into a tractor! I guess UTV's are for play and there for worth more.......I don't get it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 17 hours ago, gearhead204 said: what I cant figure out is a side by side UTV costs more than a compact tractor, a whole lot more machining goes into a tractor! I guess UTV's are for play and there for worth more.......I don't get it! I agree a crazy price and what are they really any good for especially out here the bloody steering wheel is on the wrong side A few years ago bought me a little Kia Ceres 4 x 4 for a couple of grand has a cab a tipping tray diesel does 100 km/h drive it town if I want and goes anywhere on the farm cost 2 tenths of stuff all to run and yeah its uncool and looks a bit different but its better than one of them side be side thingy's Paul 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyGunner Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 On 11/28/2016 at 9:33 PM, gearhead204 said: the problem is manufactures don't want you to fix any thing anymore, spent 2/3 of the day on the puter trying to find parts for a 30 year old tractor. Its too old for the dealer to supply parts and too new for the vintage or classic guys to carry them. never thought a 70 hp. international tractor that sold in the tens of thousands would be obsolete! Another good place for new parts for old tractors in antiquetractorsrus.com Maggie is very helpful. 1 Quote The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by the people who vote for a living.The government can only "give" someone what they first take from another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyT Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Teamster Grrrl, on the subject of Chinese junk, Consumer Reports, which mostly evaluates yuppified electronics b.s. did a road test on the Buick Envision and they prefaced The report with CHINESE built Buick Envision! The italics are mine,but they seldom mention where a vehicle is made! Not surprisingly the car got poor ratings! A compact suv with a 45k price tag! I believe this is the first American badged car built in China! Even if you didn't care about made in America,there is NO reason to buy a Chinese built car! There is a full selection of reliable competitively priced cars in every category! Admittedly in the late 70s to early 90s many American cars had half ass build quality, and the Japanese cars were more reliable.The American carmakers have seen the light and are building reliable cars now! Even the majority of foreign carmakers have models built in America! GM quietly slipped the Envision on us and if we buy it pretty quick they will all be built there! This is one of the few times where we actually have a choice! They want to see if we will buy it! And I predict that the average asshole American consumer (the same ones who buy all the Chinese power tools ) with the iconic names like Milwaukee and Rockwell will buy it! I am going to keep an eye on this car built by exploited workers paid subsistence wages in a polluted country to see it's long term reliability! Comments please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 On 11/30/2016 at 6:43 PM, mrsmackpaul said: A few years ago bought me a little Kia Ceres 4 x 4 for a couple of grand has a cab a tipping tray diesel does 100 km/h drive it town if I want and goes anywhere on the farm cost 2 tenths of stuff all to run and yeah its uncool and looks a bit different but its better than one of them side be side thingy's Paul The one-ton Kia Ceres four-wheel drive truck was exported to the Philippines, Latin America, Australia and Turkey. . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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