other dog Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 I once saw a chevrolet pickup at a truck show in Winchester with a 3-53 Detroit in it. I figured i'd post a picture in case Joe wants to get one and put it in his Suburban. Since my scanner doesn't work I had to take a picture of the picture. Threw in some eye candy too, a beautiful old Chevrolet wrecker. It was no problem, It was on the same page in the photo album. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 That green Chevy is owned by Dan Renovetz(junkmandan), here in Ohio. That ol truck has been around the world a bunch of times. Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 That green Chevy is owned by Dan Renovetz(junkmandan), here in Ohio. That ol truck has been around the world a bunch of times. thanks Freightrain,now he knows who he can contact for help and advice. I think there's an article about it in one of my antique truck magazines, but I didn't know where to start looking. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoClueJoe66 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I appreciate the pics Tom. I'm hoping to get the 3-53 my buddy has. Larry do you know how to get ahold of this guy? I might need some help...lol Thanks guys Quote This message was brought to you by Hargraves Potted Meat Product. Chopped full of "Peckers & Lips" since 1933 - John Boy & Billy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcticmack Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 You guys wanna see and hear some detroit diesel driven pickups look on youtube theres a few on there, pretty cool. that is a 4-71 turbo detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Maney Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 A friend locally has a couple of vehicles that he has made Detriot powered. A Chevy Blazer and a Buick Riveria. he has had each of them to Gerhart's All-Mack meet and I believe the ATCA National Meet at Macungie. If I can locate my photos I'll share them. He has done a spectacular job shoehorning the screamers in each.Doug Quote Interested in Old Trucks? Check out: www.antiquetruckclubofamerica.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 You guys wanna see and hear some detroit diesel driven pickups look on youtube theres a few on there, pretty cool. that is a 4-71 turbo detroit.I like it! Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoClueJoe66 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Well guys i got her. I'm gonna bring it home Saturday, really excited too. Thinking about 100% on puttin it in my '52 ford F-6. Hoping I can make it work. Done have a few friends wanting to help "we'll see how that turns out" And anybody that wants to chime in with suggestions are more than welcome. Thanks for the pics, and videos.. Quote This message was brought to you by Hargraves Potted Meat Product. Chopped full of "Peckers & Lips" since 1933 - John Boy & Billy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theakerstwo Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 I install a 3 53 in a 58 chevy pickup about 15 years ago. This was a engine and trans like new that came from a military vehicle and was aluminum and still was heavy. This was a 3/4 ton and we shorten the frame for a short step side bed. The rear end was 4:11 and i install over size wheels and tires on rear to get ratio up and i think the fron had 17: rubber on it so it set level. i will try to find photo and post. I did cut RPM back to 2700 and losen up the rack some to keep from hurting the engine. It had good power and run about 70 mph and did good on fuel. I installed a good air cleaner on it to cut some of the noise and a new 3" exhaust to the rear and insulated the hood to cut the racket.The tach drtive was on the rear and i cut a small hole behind it in the fire wall for a tach cable and straight back into the tach.I let my son drive it to school his last school year and we live 2 miles from school in the rual area and i could here him coming home. had to tell him a couple of times you shift when you run out of RPM. It looked like a 5 speed chevy trans and was easy to cool. I install a new rad the rad shop had and told me it was from a old dodge pick up but it fit in the chevy. I will say again those are heavy engines and mine was alummin. I never did find out if the liners could be replaced in the block but i think not. The DD dear her had never seen one and did not have any info on it but after a year some one else wanted it and i sold it. glenn Some advice to any one who uses one in a small truck is do use good engine insulators. glenn Quote glenn akers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoClueJoe66 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I'm afraid due to rainy weather and no trailer to use the motor's still at my buddy's house. I was gonna bring it to work and use the forklift to unload it from his trailer to mine, but nothing. His trailer already has alot of stuff on it so taking it to the house would be a problem plus it's in the middle of the trailer so forklifting it would be our only option...Anyway i have a buddy that's going through a divorce and needs a place to store his tools so he's gonna help me out with the project for a payment of storing his tools, good friend. Well i'm gonna go back to work now and you guys have a good one.... Quote This message was brought to you by Hargraves Potted Meat Product. Chopped full of "Peckers & Lips" since 1933 - John Boy & Billy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoClueJoe66 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 We'll guys i got her home, kinda a dinky little thing but still cool. Starting to think it's a 3-71, cause all the 3-53's i've seen yet has the exhaust on the right side of the motor, mine has it on the left side. http://www.jobbersinc.com/detroitd.htm, this is a 3-71 and is pretty much identical. Any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated. Quote This message was brought to you by Hargraves Potted Meat Product. Chopped full of "Peckers & Lips" since 1933 - John Boy & Billy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvgarr Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 71 series detroits have center bolt valve covers the bolts look like to hand nobs on top 53 series have the bolts on the sides of the valve covers also 71s have carbon plates on the sides 53s just have a cover were the blower would go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvgarr Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 does look like a 3-53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoClueJoe66 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Indeed it does, thanks for the info. Quote This message was brought to you by Hargraves Potted Meat Product. Chopped full of "Peckers & Lips" since 1933 - John Boy & Billy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Rider Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Dan is a pretty cool guy . A few years ago he parked next to me at an antique tractor show in Dover,Ohio. The wife and I camped there and he was gratefull because he knew someone would be there all night with his truck. He was in and out all weekend and if I remember it was because his wife was ill. He did tell me though that his truck gets silly mileage on the highway , something like 30+ MPG if I 'member correctly. It sounded great, not loud, obnoxious, or clattery, just right . Weird hearing an oil burner in a pick-up of that era. Quote #1 on A-model registryIf I drink because of work, why can't I drink at work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Have you checked the rotation on this engine? For some applications they were set up to run backwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other dog Posted December 3, 2008 Author Share Posted December 3, 2008 Have you checked the rotation on this engine? For some applications they were set up to run backwards.that's right, I hadn't even thought of that! Better check 'er out Joe, you might have to turn the cab around backwards and have a rear steer truck. Then you can extend the hood all the way to the rear-I mean front now-wheels. Or either backup everywhere you go at a high rate of speed. Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackaholic Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 When I was in college there was a prof. who had a GMC pickup with a detroit in it. I don't know which model but you could hear him coming from miles away. Better use plenty of firewall insulation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvgarr Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 if it runs backwards all you have to do is take the back cover off reset the timing for standard rotation and if i remember right thats it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoClueJoe66 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I haven't even checked the rotation, done forgot about these motors turnin both directions. Thanks thermodyne for the info. After thinking about it, i figured if this motor works out, then i'll run it in the truck till i find a 6v motor to stuff in her. The motormounts can't be much different right? 6v motor would be the same length as mine. Would be cool, but who knows this one could be all i need so to speak, would be cool to upgrade over time. Actually I just need to stick with he basics at the moment. Tom i'm a slow backer-upper, i might have to get you to back this thing up at high speeds for me...lol. I really appreciate everyone's help and support. Better thn the other forums i mentioned it on.....we'll as Other Dog say's I must be off Quote This message was brought to you by Hargraves Potted Meat Product. Chopped full of "Peckers & Lips" since 1933 - John Boy & Billy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvgarr Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I haven't even checked the rotation, done forgot about these motors turnin both directions. Thanks thermodyne for the info. After thinking about it, i figured if this motor works out, then i'll run it in the truck till i find a 6v motor to stuff in her. The motormounts can't be much different right? 6v motor would be the same length as mine. Would be cool, but who knows this one could be all i need so to speak, would be cool to upgrade over time. Actually I just need to stick with he basics at the moment. Tom i'm a slow backer-upper, i might have to get you to back this thing up at high speeds for me...lol. I really appreciate everyone's help and support. Better thn the other forums i mentioned it on.....we'll as Other Dog say's I must be offthe 6v53 is the same length and height as a 4-53 but is 40 inches wide compared to 27 so need some room for a 6v53 also a 4-53 weighs 1100 and the 6v53 weighs 1400 might just get a 4-53 for an upgrade your choice though now your 3-53 is 33 inchs long and width is 27 inchs and 35 inchs tall just for refrence it goes as this engine modelhorsepowerrpmlengthwidthheightweight 2-71 68 2000 32 27 41 9603-53 101 2800 33 27 35 9653-71 113 2100 36 29 41 15253-53T 131 2500 33 29 40 10004-53 140 2800 39 27 37 11104-53T 175 2500 40 32 37 13004-71 160 2100 42 29 42 17804-717 190 2100 44 31 44 18306V-53 216 2800 39 40 37 14856V53T 223 2500 39 37 41 16956-71 238 2100 54 29 39 21906V-71 238 2100 41 39 48 20106V-92 276 2100 41 39 47 19606V-71T 277 2100 41 40 53 20806-71T 285 2100 56 32 50 22408V-71 318 2100 47 39 51 23106V-92T 322 2100 41 39 52 20058V-71T 362 2100 50 40 53 24968V-92 368 2100 48 39 51 23458V-92T 430 2100 48 39 52 239512V-71T 475 2100 60 46 57 312012V-92 540 2100 69 47 50 391012V-71T 553 2100 70 48 55 355016V-71 635 2100 79 45 58 460012V-92T 665 2100 68 47 54 425016V-71T 725 2100 78 47 58 480016V-92 736 2100 79 44 58 460012V-149 800 1900 92 57 67 888016V-92T 860 2100 79 47 59 480016V-92TA 880 2100 79 47 59 484012V-149T 1000 1900 91 63 69 909516V-149 1060 1900 108 54 68 1054012V-149T1 1200 1900 91 64 69 922516V-149T 1325 1900 109 64 72 1084016V-149T1 1600 1900 104 64 66 10865 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdthoren Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Dang it guys,You got the juices flowing, I started looking around for a donor crewcab pickup to put my 4-71 generator set engine into!!!Thermodyne B63, do you have torque numbers for each of the engines (I would suppose they would vary widely based on injectors and vintage)?Rob, as the resident board generator expert, not sure what style of flywheel would be on a getset...much less if it is a standard bellhousing (would assume so, but you never know).Any ideas on transmissions that would handle horsepower & torque (mine is a 1940's non-turbo version), number of gears/speeds needed to avoid huge rpm changes per shift, and if an Allison AT540 or MT653(?) would be a good idea? Thanks,Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Dang it guys,You got the juices flowing, I started looking around for a donor crewcab pickup to put my 4-71 generator set engine into!!!Thermodyne B63, do you have torque numbers for each of the engines (I would suppose they would vary widely based on injectors and vintage)?Rob, as the resident board generator expert, not sure what style of flywheel would be on a getset...much less if it is a standard bellhousing (would assume so, but you never know).Any ideas on transmissions that would handle horsepower & torque (mine is a 1940's non-turbo version), number of gears/speeds needed to avoid huge rpm changes per shift, and if an Allison AT540 or MT653(?) would be a good idea? Thanks,ScottHi Scott. Both of my 4-71 series powered sets have SAE#1 flywheel housings attached to them. They also do not use a standard flywheel or flexplate although an automotive flywheel could readily be swapped over.The 6-71, and 6V-71 series engines also use SAE#1 flywheel housings. All of the larger "V" series engines use an SAE#00 housing in both the 71, and 92 series. I don't maintain anything newer than the 92's. I'm speaking solely of the Detroit powered sets there. All use an industrial flywheel of appropriate size for their respective housing(s), and are direct coupled to their alternators/generators. Most any transmission available in a medium duty chassis would work for you but I would stay with at least a five speed due to gear spread. The 4-71's are a fine engine but make an awful lot of noise for the power delivered without a very good silenced air cleaner.Rob Quote Plodding along with no job nor practical application for my existence, but still trying to fix what's broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoClueJoe66 Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I appreciate it Thermodyne, I didn't think about it till a while later but a 6v motor would be alot heavier. Hope you can venture into something like this also Scott, I found this motor on one heck of a deal and jumped on it. I bought this motor for 100.00 dollars less than a new "rebuilt" Carb would be for my flathead 6, don't get me wrong the flattie is torquey but has 20 less horsepower, motors pretty worn & I would have to spend some serious cash to get everything right. All i really have to do to the detroit is make my motor mounts, fab up a clutch linkage, wire up an alternator, few little small odds and ends, but nothing major though. Might not be fast, but should sound cool and how many old '52 fords have you seen with a detroit? I eally appreciate the help and support from everyone here. Thermodyne It appears you've been around quite a few of these motors Quote This message was brought to you by Hargraves Potted Meat Product. Chopped full of "Peckers & Lips" since 1933 - John Boy & Billy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvgarr Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I appreciate it Thermodyne, I didn't think about it till a while later but a 6v motor would be alot heavier. Hope you can venture into something like this also Scott, I found this motor on one heck of a deal and jumped on it. I bought this motor for 100.00 dollars less than a new "rebuilt" Carb would be for my flathead 6, don't get me wrong the flattie is torquey but has 20 less horsepower, motors pretty worn & I would have to spend some serious cash to get everything right. All i really have to do to the detroit is make my motor mounts, fab up a clutch linkage, wire up an alternator, few little small odds and ends, but nothing major though. Might not be fast, but should sound cool and how many old '52 fords have you seen with a detroit? I eally appreciate the help and support from everyone here. Thermodyne It appears you've been around quite a few of these motors[/quoteyea i have been around them that is what is used mostly on the farm i have 3 6v53 marine motors with alison automatics and chain cases want to put one in a pickup sometime. anytime you need to ask a question im here ill answer it as best i can got a bunch of manuals for these motors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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