Popular Post kscarbel2 Posted August 24, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2015 Michael Mukasey, U.S. attorney general under President George W. Bush, says that Title 18, Section 2071 of federal law bars an official from holding future office if he or she 'conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys' them.Mukasey says the law is clear about 'what happens to you if you are a custodian of public records and you, among other things, alter them or obliterate them.''And number one, that's a felony, but that statute makes you unqualified – disqualifies you – from holding any further office in the United States. And she's running for a further office.'Clinton, the Democratic Party's front-runner for president, has acknowledged that she ordered the deletion of more than 30,000 emails from a private server where she hosted all of her official electronic communications durign the four years when she was the top U.S. diplomat.'There's going to be classified material there,' Mukasey said, forecasting the results of multiple investigations. And Clinton, he emphasized, has admitted making the decision to delete tens of thousands of documents.'She's already said that she directed that this be done,' he said, referring to the server that the FBI seized last week after someone had tried to wipe its contents clean.'I think the more dangerous part of this from her standpoint is not so much the placement of the material there as wiping the server,' Mukasey added.Related video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV0NKSPLojk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 41chevy Posted August 25, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2015 I'd bet the current Attorney General Loretta Lynch will give her a pass on it until after the election. . . Paul 3 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hicrop10 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 If you can think back to,when Bill was in office and my memory serves me right didn't the head of the CIA do the same thing as Clinton has admitted to doing and he got bill to give him a keep me out of jail card.You all don't think for one New York second that Obama not going to do the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 no doubt in my mind but i`ll believe it when ny times makes it front page headline 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Removing Hillary from the ballot would only occur if she was convicted of the crime, and so far not one of the horde of U.S. Attorneys has even brought charges. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HeavyGunner Posted August 25, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2015 Removing Hillary from the ballot would only occur if she was convicted of the crime, and so far not one of the horde of U.S. Attorneys has even brought charges.Like everything else Obummer has done what HE wanted to or turned a blind eye to. Benghazi, IRS targeting, border jumpers, Islamic terrorists, Iran deal, all the lies that came with Obummer care, deliberately causing racial tension and division and the list could literally fill a page. Wasn't this SUPPOSED to be the most transparent party ever 4 Quote The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by the people who vote for a living.The government can only "give" someone what they first take from another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Like everything else Obummer has done what HE wanted to or turned a blind eye to. Benghazi, IRS targeting, border jumpers, Islamic terrorists, Iran deal, all the lies that came with Obummer care, deliberately causing racial tension and division and the list could literally fill a page. Wasn't this SUPPOSED to be the most transparent party everIt is transparent!! Most of us can see through all his crap. 2 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HeavyGunner Posted August 25, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2015 It is transparent!! Most of us can see through all his crap.Unfortunately only about 50% of us do, he was elected twice! I have a buddy that's quite a it older than I that I met at work years ago. Nicest guy, Vietnam vet, avid outdoorsman loves hunting, fishing, hiking etc and a hell of a hard worker to boot. It always amazes me on how no matter what Obummer is right, democrats are right even though they stand for everything he is against like gun control, tree huggers, higher taxes, PETA, economic redistribution etc etc.. We visit candidly once in awhile about politics and usually through facts not feelings I can get him to see things for what they are but only momentarily. We were debating about Obummer care once and my thoughts were from the beginning NOTHINGS FOR FREE (see also my quotes at end of my posts) and that America didn't guarantee health care. In my opinion that's part of bettering yourself by getting an education and or working up in the job field until you get a job with bennies. My friend argued those points with me a little and at the end of our conversation I said "...what do you know that the government has run well? Name one thing that the government does well besides wastefully spend tax money they didn't earn and give themselves raises and free lifetime healthcare. Now you want those dingalings running our healthcare?!"He couldn't think of one thing and said " ya gotta point there" 3 Quote The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by the people who vote for a living.The government can only "give" someone what they first take from another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Unfortunately only about 50% of us do, he was elected twice! We worked as monitors at the polls for the last election, something I never did before. We know many of the people who voted and know for a fact they did not vote for Obama. When the votes were announced the turn out for Obama was not what was true. We had 100% voting for him. The head of the election board simply stated that the "computers don't lie". On polling place in Glen Cove where a friend worked has a 115% turn out for Obama. Never knew you could have more than a 100% of the people vote!Until the Electoral College is eliminated the vote is just a feel good thing for the masses.The past election was a fraud and so will this one coming, especially with the changes that were made to the Electoral College by this Administration. Paul Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted August 25, 2015 Author Share Posted August 25, 2015 Now Hillary's camp is going to drag still-wet-behind-the-ears diplomat Caroline Kennedy (ambassador to Japan) into this under the "2 wrongs make a right" rule, in a futile attempt at getting experienced veteran Hillary off the hook. They won't admit that Hillary's sinking ship now has too many holes to plug.http://us.cnn.com/2015/08/25/politics/caroline-kennedy-private-email-japan/index.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurstscrambler Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Do we really think she has a chance of winning the presidency? Scandal aside, I cant even imagine she has a shot. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 remember this folks it`s not who votes or for who it`s who counts the votes think about it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOOG Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Anyone that is against the electoral college system, doesn't understand it . It's brilliant! The founding fathers we great men! - Tom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share Posted August 26, 2015 Anyone that is against the electoral college system, doesn't understand it . It's brilliant! The founding fathers we great men! - TomThe majority of Americans want the Electoral College eliminated, and replaced with a national popular (direct) vote. However the ruling aristocracy behind the veil will of course never allow that to happen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 eliminate the electoral collage = hand the country to the freeloaders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOOG Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 The EC is a very good thing! If we didn't have it, there would never be a Republican president again. If we elected our president solely on the popular vote, the candidates would only campaign in the big states and only in the city. Smaller states would be rendered irrelevant. The inner city vote is almost completely Democrat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOOG Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 What changes has Obama made to the EC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 eliminate the electoral collage = hand the country to the freeloadersPeople would not be so bitter to the E/C if they showed integrity and followed the rules. Most of these state laws generally assert that an elector shall cast his or her vote for the candidates who won a majority of the state's popular vote or for the candidate of the party that nominated the elector.Over the years, however, despite legal oversight, a number of electors have violated their state's law binding them to their pledged vote. However, these violators often only face being charged with a misdemeanor or a small fine, usually $1,000. Many constitutional scholars agree that electors remain free agents despite state laws and that, if challenged, such laws would be ruled unconstitutional. Therefore, electors can decline to cast their vote for a specific candidate (the one that wins the popular vote of their state), either voting for an alternative candidate, or abstaining completely. In fact, in the 2000 election, Barbara Lett-Simmons, an elector for the District of Columbia, cast a blank ballot for president and vice president in protest of the District's unfair voting rights. When it comes down to it, electors are ultimately free to vote for whom they prersonally prefer, despite the general public's desire. This inconsistency allows for discrepancies in our electoral system. The electors from more then half of the states can vote however they wish, regardless of the popular will of the state. In the founding of our nation, the Electoral College was established to prevent the people from making "uneducated" decisions. The founders feared uneducated public opinion and designed the Electoral College as a layer of insulation from the direct voice of the masses.There is no reason, in this modern day, to assign this responsibility to a set of individual electors. Hundreds of thousands of votes can and have been violated by an individual elector, choosing to act on his or her own behalf instead of the behalf of the people. In the 2008 election, 51 electors did not cast their votes for the candidates who they were designated to represent by the popular vote. FIX IT. 2 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share Posted August 26, 2015 The election process including the electoral college is a "show", designed to give the masses the illusion that they are participating in government.The founding fathers of our country were amongst the small group of wealthy and schooled aristocracy in the thirteen English colonies that felt the uneducated commoners were unqualified to participate in government. Rather than allow the masses to direct vote, the founding fathers created the Electoral College, ensuring that a proper choice was made for president and vice-president (by the aristocracy behind the veil).The founding fathers enticed the commoners (mass population) of the English colonist to join together in a revolutionary war for independence by promising them the ability to participate in government. However they didn’t really mean it and, at that time, were quite concerned that should they gain independence, the commoners would hold them to their promises. Much to their relief, that never happened. Under the illusion that they had a say in government, the ignorant commoners for the most part fell in line and allowed the founding fathers to run the show.(To gain an accurate picture of our beginning, I encourage you to read "Independence: The Struggle to Set America Free", by John Ferling - http://www.amazon.co...s=independence) Fast forwarding to today, ponder if you will a select group of modern day aristocracy actually managing the country behind the veil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 you made my point ( uneducated decisions) whoever the politician is dem- rep- indep. who promises the most free stuff will surely get the majority vote .maybe stronger more thorough vetting of chosen electors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HeavyGunner Posted August 26, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2015 Do we really think she has a chance of winning the presidency? Scandal aside, I cant even imagine she has a shot. AndyI would like to say no, she doesn't have a chance but you are forgetting the biased left media that continually covers up any scandals for the democrats and absolves them from any wrong doing. Also remember there is a pile of voters who get all their info from TV and believe it. There is also a huge chunk of our population that believes they deserve entitlement and are on the dole and Hilary tells them she's going to take us "rich" guys money to give to them. They also believe that any business is bad because they make money and Hilary backs that. I truly hope she doesn't make it into office but I certainly wouldn't underestimate the Clinton machine. I hope we get some independent like Trump (I know he's running on the republican card so far but they don't like him) who may not necessarily make all the right decision but he can show voter he's got a pair and is not afraid to make his own decisions whether others like it or not. 3 Quote The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by the people who vote for a living.The government can only "give" someone what they first take from another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlotpilot Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 What changes has Obama made to the EC?this requires some research not sure any actual changes have been made but i`m sure its being attempted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 this requires some research not sure any actual changes have been made but i`m sure its being attemptedThe National Popular vote bill has been going through the states. Each state much vote on following it. The bill will guarantees the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in the entire United States. The bill preserves the Electoral College, while ensuring that every vote in every state will matter in every presidential election.So far the states that have passed the bill are New York, Rhode Island, Hawaii, California, Massachusetts , Washington DC, New Jersey, Illinoios , Washington State, Vermont, Oklahoma, Wisconson and Oregon. It has passed the State Assemblies and is up for the vote in the State Senates in Ohio, Florida, Iowa, Tennessee, Arizona and Virginia.It will even up the swing states, battle ground states with the balance of the states. Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share Posted August 26, 2015 Hillary's manager changes their damage control strategy.http://us.cnn.com/2015/08/26/politics/hillary-clinton-iowa-rural-policy-2016/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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