gearhead204 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Im thinking of changing out the old hendrickson biscut on my superliner and go to the ar2 walking beam converson, my question is has any one done this to their truck or have feed back on this converson good or bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted August 7, 2015 Author Share Posted August 7, 2015 where have all the experts gone? come on guys some one must have something on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 It does appear to give good articulation for off road use and the air would smooth out the ride over a conventional spring /walking beam suspension.The rear most track bar will be critical to keep "tight" and will be taking quite a bit of stress.No personal experience with this set up. Just looking at pictures. 1 Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steth121660 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 RJ Zigmont has one under his Brockway,he's on here sometimes maybe he'll weigh in. I am looking for a sued one to put under my 360. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 where have all the experts gone? come on guys some one must have something on thisno expert here. one of the mechanics in the area has seen them and says they're nice looking option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmyb Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 I really like the look of that suspension.Sounds like the world needs a bloke like yourself to install it and maybe do a bit of a review.There is also the same setup called Raydan. Apparently its a bit heavier duty than the ar2, and a few little differences from what ive read but essentially the same thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 TimmyB what have you heard about the raydan? I was going to check on it as well, does it also reuse the walking beams without having to change other stuff? i will tryto do some internet searching to see what i can learn. thanks for the reply! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Hendrickson does terrific work. Extremely professional organization.The AR2 is one way. http://www.hendrickson-intl.com/Truck/Vocational/AR2But a more maintenance-free severe service alternative, with decent ride but significantly less weight than AR2, would be the Haulmaax. http://www.hendrickson-intl.com/Truck/Vocational/HAULMAAX(Or the similarly construction Ultimaax for ratings over 46,000lb) http://www.hendrickson-intl.com/Truck/Vocational/ULTIMAAX#tabsIf you want air suspension for a severe service application, it's hard to beat the Primaax EX (my preference for a tractor). http://www.hendrickson-intl.com/Truck/Vocational/Primaax-EX 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmyb Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I think the raydan has a big weight rating. I know it has a bigger air bag in the rear, with slightly smaller at the front. Not sure if that will do anything?Also a selling point of theirs is you can drive fully loaded with no air in the bags. Just to get it home incase of a blown air line/bag. Not sure if it comes in kit form or not. I think either raydan or ar2 will have you smiling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmyb Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 it's mentioned in a discussion in the link below. http://forum.aths.org/PrintTopic41124.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiant2 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 can i see pics of this set up. Quote We the unwilling, Lead by the unqualified, are doing the impossible, for the ungrateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmyb Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 This is Hendrickson ar2This is raydan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiant2 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Is this a older set up or new. Quote We the unwilling, Lead by the unqualified, are doing the impossible, for the ungrateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted August 11, 2015 Author Share Posted August 11, 2015 as i understand it can be ordered on a new truck but is also to upfit older trucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiant2 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 any idea on cost Quote We the unwilling, Lead by the unqualified, are doing the impossible, for the ungrateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I've heard rumors that an "upgrade" from a standard steel spring walking beam suspension is in the $10-12K neighborhood. Not sure if that's JUST the cost of parts, labor extra on top of that...or if that is the typical on-the-truck-ready-to-roll price.Yeah, I'm dreaming of the day when I can find a nice walking beam cut-off with 44-46K Mack rears to upgrade with the air springs and put under my truck...might have to win the lottery first, though... Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackglobal Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Its quite a good venture lets see how it works out. Keep the update alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david wild Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 The AR2 is a great product, deflate when using with high CG. loads, and still works great off road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBGraves Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Has anyone used one of these set ups. I have walking beam on Mack rears. 6 axle dumptruck I wonder if you could deflate the bags and spread a load of gravel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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