Vladislav

How the whole frame work is going on? Currently I'm tinkering with the idea to fabricate a pair of new Neway crossmembers for my R-model. They're are simple of their shape and could be cut and bent of thick sheet matel in a metal shop. Suppose that would be better than using the original ones which have terrible rust spread. And also i could do a part of prep job on the frame before finally parting out the truck.

I would like too. The diagram you can get by the link is for early R-models. Many connections look the same there but many differences could be found with late 80's trucks. Vlad

When use any stainless part in contact with common steel corrosion goes pretty fast ovet the steel. That's because of different metals in contact, the same as when aluminium and steel and so on. So if you put SS part on a truck you better insulate it from contacting with steel by plastic or other non-metal part. Not good for a really tough mount in many cases but you will see fresh rust after the paint is worn or cracked otherwise.

Strange thing the truck is so rusty in many spots such as dash instrument chrome rings, door panels inside and what looked worse the frame rails. If all that grew up during the storage I doubt the crank will made a turn.

Some pics would take much more attention to your listing. Vlad

Those don't look likw a R-model Lund visor. And once in the distant past we discussed some wrong visors of about that kind on ebay. So if anybody is going to make the purchase a double check worth to be made.

I like the color the size And the color looks good too. Any plans for inner insulation?

Cool looking truck! I'm also a stock look liker and Brokway is not an exception. But I too like how that particular one looks. And on a side note I mentioned many times that Macks are scarce in Russia. But if you say Brokway nobody would probably even trust you such brand does exist!

My first thought was a flooding. Wish it will never repeat.

Sounds like a plan The cab on the Mack looks solid on the pics. If you don't go with Detroit Mack END-673 and many other later Mack straight six engines would fit the chassis as a directy swap. Don't know about the chassis brackets but the originals are too probably there. I also keep my eye on a H-model but having enough of projects at the moment and also being far away that's not what I'd expect to pop up as a deal in the distant future. Will keep my attention to your progress.

R and U had the rails the same if we mean R400 and R600. R700 has higher rail section and different front spring mounting brackets being removed backwards to accomodate longer hood (engine) RD with RB also had higher section and fatter steel than a basic R but the same general frame shape. Same spread and lowering of the section to the front. DM has its own frame style with its special front end (not like a R) and deep center behind the cab for greater capacity. F model had its own frame, not similar to a R or DM. RW2 together with MH and CL (not CH/CX) have their special chassis with "art" siluette of the frond rail ends looking from the side. Easy to figure out what I mean looking at any pic of a RW2 with the hood open. RW2 and MH also utilizes similar front spring mounting brackets, battery boxes together with front air tanks, fuel tank brackets and even the steering gerar setup. The front axles were also similar excepting particular load ratings of the beams and springs. Both had a standard higth of section and thickness (RW600, MH600) and larger numbers for RW700 and MH600 as an option. Aluminium rails could be used but those were bolted to the standard steel front section of the chassis. CL frame looks similar at the front but spring mounts are different because of the set back axle relating to RW/MH. CH is almost another story with straight rails front to back. Probably interchangable with Visions CX up to 2004 when Vovlo frames took the place. RS700 and RS600 Western Valueliners (including Macungie ones as I got figured out) had their special chassis with constant section straight rails front to back. Could be aluminium as an option. Don't know the section higth and distance between the rails but suppose the last was the same as Eastern R's had at their back end. RW1 Hayward together with WS Cruiseliner Western models utilized similar frames. The speciality was split design when the front part of the rails was an independent unit bolted to the pair of straight rails right behind the cab on a WS and below it on RW1. Another especiallity of those models was a steering gear mounted on the front axle beam, not the frame rail. Don't know much about B-models excepting their frames had nothing common with a R and there were different desgns depending on load capacity. Too probably some other models of Macks of those years utilized similar frame style. Can tell H63/67 were different but nothing above it.

The truck looks like it has potential. The 1st thing which comes to the mind is you have some ambitions to bring it to life. But I hope many parts were included with it, right? And as other mentioned above you could fill up the empty spots using old iron from different model Macks of the ages. Good luck on the project. Vlad

Many thanks for the facts. Really interesting to learn. It's difficult to imagine nowadays the things went such ways in the past. And the most everything seem as through pink glasses when were far away and long days ago. A man use to feel he is the only parson having troubles. Everybody else are absolutely happy just enjoying the life

Slack adjusters are actually the levers when the chambers act on them to lock the brakes. The largest forse applied to the S-cam is when the lever's length is the greatest. For the slacks it means when they are perpendicular to the chamber rods. The most forse is required to press the shoes finally, at the end of their travel. So with the correct settings the slacks should be at the right angle to the rods with the brakes fully applied. And if you see they don't the way of correction is turning the clevse to obtain better position on the rod and than readjust the slack adjuster. Here a trouble might be found if the rod has excessive length not allowing the clevse to back up enough (if you need it off the slack and to the chamber). And the rod should be cutted.

Happy B-day!

If the stroke is the same I'm pretty sure the shaft itself is the same too. Not 100% sure though but 99%. The best way is to check out the part ## of the particular engines.

Are you also goin' to drive it ???? As for my droolings about the Mack I could probably put it into conteiner at Seattle and get to Lithuania or Finland in a couple of months. Not a deal for my wallet these times. I enjoy that ugly cabover (and it's even a cabrio!) but would be much more exited by a factory NJU.

An umbrella would be required

Tsss, my friend, fingers crossed. And I have already read about the smoker

Might be not too expensive being put into a sea container and shipped through Panama canal to East coast. Or even over Pacific Our Nigerian member should know it better

Jim, I thought Mack didn't produce commercial trucks from 1942 to 44. Was that one ordered by War department? Or any other way?

Should be R688ST from seeing E6 4V under the hood.

Happy B-day Gearhead and bbgrig!

Looks like Buick to me but I'm way off from being sure. Those guys had a couple of perfect job restored American cars including that one. When I attended the show in the previous year a friend of mine who was a paint shop guy kept my company. He spent some while looking those cars and stated he saw an absolute top notch job. I suppose the firetruck is in the waiting line to be restored. Maybe we will see it done in the future.

You are partly right Mike. Those GAZ and ZIS didn't have Studebaker and IH cabs but those were designed and built using basically the shapes. Plenty of US-6 Studebakers were supplied to Soviet Union indeed so Russian engineers had enough samples of technical solutions working on after the war generation of vehicles. I suppose nobody here thought too much on a matter of copyright rules those days. The most of the industrial part of the country was destroyed and also Cold War isolation allowed to do what they want to do with foreign technologies which came avalible to research or copy. Looking over drawings and parts books of Russian trucks of 50's you can't find completely copied rigs of different producents. But lots and lots of technical solutions look identical to what was used in German or American vehicles of 40's. Sometimes it could be general plan of a rig, sometimes a unit desingn, sometimes parts of general appearence. But I can state the most trucks, assemblies, units or parts were not just copied but made close to some originals after research, revision and upgrates in many cases. BTW the most hardware and many basic sizes were reworked to metrics.