Clutch brake

[mechohaulic]

never used one ,but one heck of an ingenious idea. real time saver 

[Geoff Weeks]

Yep, nice tool, but hard to justify the cost unless you do a lot of them. All the ones I have done, I did without the puller.  Can be a pain to get something small enough to get behind the bearing snap ring.

[Freightrain]

At this point $70 Amazon pricing isn't bad.  Lord knows I have wasted more on less.

[Joey Mack]

When the small cover is off, you can strike the end of the input shaft with a dead blow, and the bearing will walk out enough to get behind it.

[mrsmackpaul]

So not knowing what I'm looking at here, this tool pulls the bearing offthe shaft and out of the box while leaving the shaft installed

 

Is that correct, pretty smart idea if my understanding is correct 

I guess the other side of things to think about is, if you have a issue in the box your unaware of, this is the time to have a look while it (the gear box) is on the ground out from under the truck

But.that is a smart tool if my understanding is correct 

 

Paul

[Freightrain]

It gets the bearing out of the way so you can wiggle the input shaft out.  I've watched YouTube videos of that process.

For the money I may just swap the bearing and input shaft just so they are new.  Like you say, it's right here in front of me.

 

[BottleHauler84]

1 hour ago, mrsmackpaul said:

So not knowing what I'm looking at here, this tool pulls the bearing offthe shaft and out of the box while leaving the shaft installed

 

Is that correct, pretty smart idea if my understanding is correct 

I guess the other side of things to think about is, if you have a issue in the box your unaware of, this is the time to have a look while it (the gear box) is on the ground out from under the truck

But.that is a smart tool if my understanding is correct 

 

Paul

Paul, you are correct.  It pulls the bearing off and out of the way so you can get to the internal snap ring that holds the input into the main drive gear. 

The other thing it does is keeps you from having to beat on the input shaft and cuss real loud when you encounter that one bearing that refuses to budge until to drag the torch out to get revenge on it.

Usually those bearings aren't any trouble but I've have a few that made me work for it.

[BottleHauler84]

6 minutes ago, Freightrain said:

It gets the bearing out of the way so you can wiggle the input shaft out.  I've watched YouTube videos of that process.

For the money I may just swap the bearing and input shaft just so they are new.  Like you say, it's right here in front of me.

 

I agree. You're doing such a nice build i think it makes sense to throw a clutch install/ input shaft kit in it.

[other dog]

19 hours ago, fjh said:

most folks don’t understand the use of the clutch brake  so yup I agree with that choice! Myself I would use a two piece eaton brake but the set has to be perfect! If you don’t set and use  techniques correctly you can ruin them with one poke to the floor! Don’t ask me how I know!😡

I'm not an expert in anything, but it kinda pissed me off to see drivers that had been driving a while, certainly not considered a rookie, that would get in their almost new truck and all you would hear is gears grinding when they tried to put the truck in gear, then they'd jerk it into gear and the truck would lurch forward. They would ruin the clutch brake in a brand new truck on the first trip because they pushed the pedal all the way to the floor while they were moving, and I would think "how can they not know this". Maybe I had a better understanding of it because I grew up driving tractors on the farm with a two stage power take off. You pushed the clutch pedal almost all the way down, but not quite, and you could feel the "soft spot". The tractor would stop but not the PTO. Push it all the way down it stopped the tractor and the PTO.

[Mark T]

19 minutes ago, other dog said:

I'm not an expert in anything, but it kinda pissed me off to see drivers that had been driving a while, certainly not considered a rookie, that would get in their almost new truck and all you would hear is gears grinding when they tried to put the truck in gear, then they'd jerk it into gear and the truck would lurch forward. They would ruin the clutch brake in a brand new truck on the first trip because they pushed the pedal all the way to the floor while they were moving, and I would think "how can they not know this". Maybe I had a better understanding of it because I grew up driving tractors on the farm with a two stage power take off. You pushed the clutch pedal almost all the way down, but not quite, and you could feel the "soft spot". The tractor would stop but not the PTO. Push it all the way down it stopped the tractor and the PTO.

IDK about the tractor theory. My money would be on the fact you actually gave a #*ck where as so many guys don't.

[Joey Mack]

I wish they would have put jack screw holes in the bearing cover.  Ive done a bunch of these.  Just for kicks, take the small cover bolts out and use a 5 pound dead blow on the end of the shaft. The backlash will losen the cover.  Yes some patience is needed and whatch out for hitting the bell housing with your knuckles..

[Mark T]

Or ???? ya could take a bottoming tap and tap a couple to 7/16 jack it off or a rolling head and pry it off.    and NO, I'm not real comfortable suggesting how to jack it off

[other dog]

25 minutes ago, Mark T said:

IDK about the tractor theory. My money would be on the fact you actually gave a #*ck where as so many guys don't.

Well, yeah, there's that 😂. I always treated every truck I drove like it was my own.