So, How About This Weather?

[other dog]

[mowerman]

Right on man thanks for that Tom after looking at the inside of the cab I’m sure the guys’s gonna be OK. As far as repairing that truck looks like it’s too old to bother with.

[mowerman]

And yes, I don’t know why it does not have a headache, rack that’s crazy

[Geoff Weeks]

The requirement for a headboard/headche rack went away with the newer securement  regulations. I don't agree with it, but the law is if you have two securement devices on the front of the load close together, each being capable of holding 1/2 the weight of the piece, then a headboard is no longer required. IIRC there is an exception to that for pipe, I think you still need it with pipe and may be beams. I never looked at it closely because I always ran a headache rack. 

I always had a headache rack on my tractors regardless. When a company is paying to outfit the truck, and extra strap is cheaper so that is all that is provided in most cases.

We see the result of that in those pictures. 

Edited yesterday at 03:17 PM by Geoff Weeks

[Geoff Weeks]

Reminds me of the old Bell helmet ads, "If you have $15 head buy a $15 helmet".

[other dog]

1 hour ago, Geoff Weeks said:

Reminds me of the old Bell helmet ads, "If you have $15 head buy a $15 helmet".

I used Bell helmets. The last bike I had was an LTD1000 Kawasaki. I sold it and bought a pickup truck, mainly because my wife wanted me to get rid of it, but I did need a pickup. I let the full face Bell helmet go with it and the guy that bought the bike only had it a week or 2 and wrecked it. Not his fault, a 4 wheeler made that left turn in front of him when he was coming from the opposite direction. The guy on the bike hit him right in the side. Put him in the hospital for weeks. My wife saw him somewhere after he got out of the hospital and he told her that the doctors told him that the fact that he had a good helmet was the only thing that saved his life.

[mowerman]

already ran out of likes....i rode for years ladda lotta fun on them   sold my last one 7 years ago to a buddy of mine too many stupid people here now,,,the bike is now in montana

[tjc transport]

i still have my bell full face helmet around here somewhere. over 50 years old now. 

[mowerman]

You know it was 54 years ago. I had a bad accident was nobody’s fault but my own I was speeding just got my learners permit car pulled out in front of me was not his fault. I tried to avoid the car. I ran into a three and got knocked out. Helmet was all scraped up when I came to completely ruined my 66 Honda 90 and I can still remember that car that turned in front of me don’t know how it was around  a 71 Ford wagon light  blue I don’t know how I remember that but I believe it was a bell since back then that’s what everybody  was buying hell it was so long ago. I’m surprised I even thought of that since I’m getting older and senile.

[Mark T]

2 hours ago, tjc transport said:

i still have my bell full face helmet around here somewhere. over 50 years old now. 

😉 they last a long time like that when you don't put them through the paces (and that's a good thing)  Back with the dirt bikes..... if you didn't have  a Bel Moto 3, you weren't cool.

[other dog]

There is an update on the lumber truck, they say a car did indeed pull in front of the truck and cause the accident. The driver put it in the ditch rather than hit the car. 

But- I always secured every load like I was expecting that to happen, not like "well, it could possibly happen but it probably won't".

[tjc transport]

21 minutes ago, Mark T said:

😉 they last a long time like that when you don't put them through the paces (and that's a good thing)  Back with the dirt bikes..... if you didn't have  a Bel Moto 3, you weren't cool.

mine was well used and abused.

hit 3 trees with my honda 175 before i realized the points cover seal was bad leaking oil into the points housing. i would lean to make a right turn from the fields to the woods and loose one cylinder, just as i would get it straightened out, the second cylinder would come back.. and since i was still full throttle trying t keep it in the almost sugar sand, it would pull the front wheel up rite into a giant oak tree. 

fixed the point seal to keep from oiling the points, and about a month later i came through the woods the opposite direction and a friend was coming out of the field rite in front of me. so i turned the bars, rite into the same damn tree about 25 mph.

that was the end of the 175.

about three years later i was on a harley sportster, and a pickup ran a stop sigh rite in front of me. swerved to avoid him, laid it down, and slid rite into a telephone pole.  then the tumbling bike landed on top of me. 

i decided 5 trees was enough and have not rode a bike since 86 or so

[other dog]

[Joey Mack]

Is it just a 2 bedroom 1 bath,  or does it have a second bath?  I need a place to pee when the boss is fixin her face...

[66dc75]

That's some impressive stacking

[mrsmackpaul]

10 hours ago, Geoff Weeks said:

The requirement for a headboard/headche rack went away with the newer securement  regulations. I don't agree with it, but the law is if you have two securement devices on the front of the load close together, each being capable of holding 1/2 the weight of the piece, then a headboard is no longer required. IIRC there is an exception to that for pipe, I think you still need it with pipe and may be beams. I never looked at it closely because I always ran a headache rack. 

I always had a headache rack on my tractors regardless. When a company is paying to outfit the truck, and extra strap is cheaper so that is all that is provided in most cases.

We see the result of that in those pictures. 

Hmmmm, the reliance on straps in the U.S. is very different than out here 

I was given a old Australian book while in the U.S. that shows the way to secure loads of every conceivable type 

I have noticed the U.S. don't wrap a chain around the load of wood to choke it on the front so it can't slide forward

I dunno that many people in Australia do that anymore either 

The harder it trys to slide forward the tighter it grips 

Hurdles (what we call your headache rack) on the front of the trailer are drop in and a sheet of form ply type of wood wood is leaned up against it and the stacked hard up against it 

All a bit different here though, different roads and weather conditions 

Loads like this I would expect a chain on each stack 

 

Paul

 

[cruiseliner64]

Over here in Europe the flat trailer or flat body truck is almost a thing of the past.Curtinsider trailers/bodywork rule.From doing most work Id say flats are doing 5% of the work now.Drivers who can rope and tarp a load are very thin on the ground.....

Paul

[mrsmackpaul]

Same here, flat top trailers are just about finished since the advent of curtain sider type trailers

I never realised why places like the U.S. loved pantec type trailers so much, but our flat top trailers and tarps would be pretty useless in the snow and freezing cold winters of the north America and Europe 

Would be impossible to fold frozen tarps and undo frozen ropes 

So much different than here and for very good reasons as well 

 

Paul

[70mackMB]

6 hours ago, mrsmackpaul said:

Would be impossible to fold frozen tarps and undo frozen ropes 

l don't remember which one was more fun. Folding frozen stiff snow and ice covered tarps or trying to cover a load with frozen stiff snow and ice covered tarps. And trying to stay standing up on top of the load while doing it!  lol

No ropes over here Paul. Rubber straps with "S" hooks on them. The colder it gets the less elasticity they have. And the load straps frozen onto the winches with road spray. OH back when it was fun. 

When l drove for Georgia Pacific (lumber and building supplies) we would leave with 8-12 stops under two tarps. Seems there was always something that needed to be covered right to the last stop of the day.  .....Hippy 

[Mark T]

18 minutes ago, 70mackMB said:

l don't remember which one was more fun. Folding frozen stiff snow and ice covered tarps or trying to cover a load with frozen stiff snow and ice covered tarps. And trying to stay standing up on top of the load while doing it!  lol

No ropes over here Paul. Rubber straps with "S" hooks on them. The colder it gets the less elasticity they have. And the load straps frozen onto the winches with road spray. OH back when it was fun. 

When l drove for Georgia Pacific (lumber and building supplies) we would leave with 8-12 stops under two tarps. Seems there was always something that needed to be covered right to the last stop of the day.  .....Hippy 

You won't find a workout like that at Planet Fitness.

[other dog]

14 hours ago, Joey Mack said:

Is it just a 2 bedroom 1 bath,  or does it have a second bath?  I need a place to pee when the boss is fixin her face...

That's the beauty of this unassembled igloo, there are many options as to the final configuration. You can build it like you want it!

[other dog]

Aw shucks, it's just thrown in a pile, but thank you. I could have made a wall or something, but I wasn't thinking about that at the time. I think Joey is going to come pick it up today or tomorrow anyway. Too bad he couldn't get up here yesterday, the neighbor had somebody with a bobcat clearing his driveway, he could have loaded it easily.

[Joey Mack]

Another missed oppotunity..  dang-it..

[other dog]

42 minutes ago, 70mackMB said:

l don't remember which one was more fun. Folding frozen stiff snow and ice covered tarps or trying to cover a load with frozen stiff snow and ice covered tarps. And trying to stay standing up on top of the load while doing it!  lol

No ropes over here Paul. Rubber straps with "S" hooks on them. The colder it gets the less elasticity they have. And the load straps frozen onto the winches with road spray. OH back when it was fun. 

When l drove for Georgia Pacific (lumber and building supplies) we would leave with 8-12 stops under two tarps. Seems there was always something that needed to be covered right to the last stop of the day.  .....Hippy 

Yes, and when you could normally fold a tarp and it would fit in a tool box, when they were frozen you were lucky to get them the size of a Volkswagen when you folded them.

[Geoff Weeks]

14 minutes ago, other dog said:

Yes, and when you could normally fold a tarp and it would fit in a tool box, when they were frozen you were lucky to get them the size of a Volkswagen when you folded them.

Up in Canada, they carry aintifreeze in a spray bottle to spray on the tarp to keep it from freezing together when folded.

 You can carry a lot more stuff on a flatbed that you can with a curtinside or consatoga kit. 

I have pulled all three. The last two are great for uncrated machinery, which is like tarping an octopus with rigamortus.  However you can't pull OD loads or hang stuff off the front and/or rear of the trailer like you can with flatbed.

Not that I like tarping, but it is part of the job.

When I was operating, there  places that would not load either of the "covered" flatbed, they didn't want to work around the covers.