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13 hours ago, mechohaulic said:

no their NOT. another way of wasting millions of $$$ on paper.  no one questioned how the jan 6 "invaders 'got  into the white house; where was secret service ????????? why didn't the price of chicken triple after the virus killed millions of chickens; just the price of eggs tripled (right before Easter) . sadly the American public believe what the controlled news reports

Not sure what happened because we didn’t have any problem getting chicken or eggs here the prices rise slightly not even really enough to even notice but as I mentioned, our gasoline is out of control and all of California prices range from 4:15 to 4:80 It’s ridiculous

dont know if you fellas remember this,,,a few years back,,,,they caught a egg plant pulling that and they got in a lotta trouble over it,,,,after investigations,,,,discovered it was all a scam,,,there was no shortage of eggs at all

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2 minutes ago, mowerman said:

dont know if you fellas remember this,,,a few years back,,,,they caught a egg plant pulling that and they got in a lotta trouble over it,,,,after investigations,,,,discovered it was all a scam,,,there was no shortage of eggs at all

can't keep this egg topic on a roll . but one more. if millions of chickens had to be eliminated , where did they go? in to pet food or on the shelves for consumers to eat ! how did the shortages resupply so fast (after Easter) kept the remaining chickens on overtime ? or did they take the "rainbow" roosters and put them to work making eggs.

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egg laying hens are housed in much higher density so it rips though the whole flock much quicker, also more are kept for laying than are raised for meat.

We did have it spread to zoo birds here, the zoo ended up quarantining their birds in buildings to prevent it from wild birds.

Bio-security is a big deal around here, we even had one town completely quarantined for the movement of birds. 

Rose acre farms had it get into some of their turkey houses, cost them plenty, and I saw the efforts took to deal with it. No vehicles in or out without being "sprayed and drove through a de-contamination pool to get the tires and under side, all employees had to park remotely and walk in.

Culled birds were buried in a big pit. I don't know if it was lined or sprayed before the cap was put on the pit. Big news out here where there are large chicken, egg and turkey farms. 

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2 hours ago, Joey Mack said:

I always wondered how the only birds that were supposedly infected were the ones used for egg production, but there was plenty of chickens to eat.. and turkey's didnt get the bird flu?  and how come regular, everyday birds werent just dropping from the sky across America..? 

i guess it all depends on where you are,,,,most of our food comes in here from california

oh my god,,,fresh eggs are the best,,,,ive only had the opportunity to have them a couple times in my life a lotta people in my neighborhood raise them,,,,unfortunately i dont know any of them,,,but i hear roosters everywhere,,,,bob

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11 minutes ago, mechohaulic said:

seems the farmer kids of the early generation didn't need all these present day needles/shots either. had a better immune system playing in and eating dirt. picking veggies from garden we didn't run to water hose and wash everything. wipe the beans/ carrots on work clothes and munch away.

Yep, and they died of diphtheria, Whooping cough, and suffered polio, not because they were stronger, but because the only ones around to tell us about it are the ones that survived.

Do you know what diphtheria does? It forms a membrane across your larynx, so you die of suffocation. Not a pleasant way to go. Polio can prevent your ability to breath also.

 It is not a coincidence that "vaccine hesitancy" has come about only after all who lived though the times when there was nothing that could be done for these diseases have pass on from long lives. 

 The lack of these horrible diseases, is the only thing that breeds the kind of thinking that they are not necessary, or worse "dangerous". We are too far removed from the horrors of them.

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2 hours ago, davehummell said:

I can't remember how many times I got the measles along with chicken pox and the mumps from others in school not to forget the bad colds I can still remember the threat of a spoon full of caster oil if I didn't get better we didn't go to the dr unless we were at deaths door

I can't remember how many times I had polio, diphtheria or whooping cough, because I never had them.

You can't remember how many times you had measles because at most you can have it once, unless your immune system is severely compromised.    

By implying you had it repeatedly just shows you don't know about it. There are at least five (IIRC) kids who died unnecessarily from the latest outbreak in Tx.

 Yeah, I had those diseases also, but why would you want to put a child through that when they can get the same immunity from a jab? 

Yeah I got chicken pox and now have to worry about shingles, if there was a shot for chicken pox when I was young I wouldn't!

 You are looking backward with nostalgia for a time that never existed.

I didn't have to worry about small pox because it was under control, and now mostly eliminated from the world.  Getting it doesn't make you stronger, most often it makes you dead. Some survive, as with most diseases, but at best it leaves you immune from future infection. 

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ya i came home in a 49 dodge convertible in something like that one,,,,believe it of not i can still remember sitting in that thing a few times,,,,,too bad i cant ever remember anything important,,and yes mrs mower would agree,,lol,bob

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Yeah, we all survived without what we have today, I am not disputing it. We were not better off for it, however.

I remember when I was sold on 3pt seatbelts. It was the late 60's and a Volvo P1800 hit a snow drift @70 mph, flipped and spun on the passengers door. No one walked away, they drove off after my dad and a few other stopped and pushed the car back on its tires. The two occupants were shaken up, and the antenna was bent, but it drove on.

I did all the kid things, including drinking from a hose or a stream, and lived to tell about it. I also learned not to drink from an unknown stream after a bad night of being sick. I had done it many times and one time proved one too many.

Again, I don't dispute we survived, only that in some way we were better off for the experience. I have never experienced Fentanyl, and surviving having done so would not make me stronger or better off in any way, but brings the very real risk of not surviving.

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