kscarbel2 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 First pictures of Ford Motor Company's new H62X Cargo heavy truck for 2018. Serious metal indeed with up to 520 horsepower. Featuring an all-new full-width cab, the Ford Cargo is now prepared to compete with Iveco, MAN, Mercedes-Benz, Renault, Scania and Volvo. Ford was willing to allow its Chinese partner to build a variant* of the current Cargo under license, because the all new Cargo was on the way. * https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/48768-china-market-ford-cargo-heavy-tractor-arrives/. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 The current Ford Cargo, an impressive truck in its own right in both the on-highway and vocational segments, was introduced in 2013*. Ford-Ottosan, with the full support of Bill Ford, is charging forward in leaps and bounds. * https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/34938-the-global-market-ford-cargo-heavy-tractor/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadwayR Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Impressive, but how long before Hackett sells off Ford's interest to fund domestic EV development? On the bright side I don't think such a sale would slow Ottosan down too much. You never know, it might open the door to a strategic alliance with a global truck manufacturer.............. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS7 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Ford should not invest any more in Turkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Note how well the sloping window, wheel cutout, and other lines would line up with a sloping hood... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 6 hours ago, RoadwayR said: Impressive, but how long before Hackett sells off Ford's interest to fund domestic EV development? On the bright side I don't think such a sale would slow Ottosan down too much. You never know, it might open the door to a strategic alliance with a global truck manufacturer.............. For sure that is a concern, but as KSC has pointed out, I do believe Bill Ford is solidly in back of these guys. And I do believe I read he was not in favor of the 1998 sale of class 7 and 8 to Daimler. Also I believe Turkey for sure was on Hacketts early visitation list. Last point, as Lee Iacoccoa once said during his time at Ford...."you never forget whose name is on the building" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 13 minutes ago, Maxidyne said: Note how well the sloping window, wheel cutout, and other lines would line up with a sloping hood... good point-KSC is the big Iveco conventional based on any cab over components? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 38 minutes ago, Red Horse said: good point-KSC is the big Iveco conventional based on any cab over components? Yes Bob, the Powerstar's* cab is a variant of the Stralis COE. * https://www.iveco.com.au/product/powerstar Many conventionals have used COE cabs. The original Freightliner Business Class conventional (1991-2001) used a COE cab from the Mercedes-Benz model LN. The Freightliner Argosy II COE shares the same cab as the Century Class, Columbia and Coronado (the Argosy variant is 305mm wider). The Mack MS Mid-Liner COE shared the same cab used on the Mack CS Mid-Liner conventional, and Renault’s C, CBH, CLM, CLR and GBC series conventional cab models. The DAF XT conventional is based on the DAF XF105. Scania's T-Series used the truckmaker's Bertone-designed 4-Series COE cab. And the global market Volvo NH conventional was based on the FH/FM COE cab. The NH was full-width like the FH COE, while the North American market VN is a narrowed variant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 43 minutes ago, Red Horse said: For sure that is a concern, but as KSC has pointed out, I do believe Bill Ford is solidly in back of these guys. And I do believe I read he was not in favor of the 1998 sale of class 7 and 8 to Daimler. Also I believe Turkey for sure was on Hacketts early visitation list. Last point, as Lee Iacoccoa once said during his time at Ford...."you never forget whose name is on the building" There's something personal about Otosan for Bill Ford, I believe relating to his family's long time connection. Henry Ford personally made the Koc family a Ford distributor in 1928. And Ford invited hundreds of Turkish (and Syrian) workers to come join him in the states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS7 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Then Bill Ford should help the Koc family move out of Turkey before it is too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 In this photo, you can see the new H62X cab is a genuine "full-width" European level cab. H62X represents very serious intentions and investment on Ford's part. Well done. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Put a hood on it and stretch the sleeper to make North America's truckers happy and it'd be a hit! Conventional wisdom is that small volume big trucks aren't worth the bother for big auto makers... But just as low volume high performance cars like the Ford GT have a "halo effect" that boosts sales of high volume cars, having a Class 8 and world class truck at the top of the lineup will boost sales of high volume trucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Red Horse Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 18 minutes ago, kscarbel2 said: Kevin- any word on what the big 520 HP motor is? A current Cursor?? Also you have any thoughts on the Work Truck Show news?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted February 9, 2018 Author Share Posted February 9, 2018 No word on the engine. I think people are going to be disappointed with Ford at the work truck show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 At Ford Trucks, we’re serious about trucking. It's why we designed the all-new 2019 Ford Cargo heavy truck range from the ground up to meet your needs and expectations. See your authorized Ford heavy truck dealer for details. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 At Ford's presser yesterday they detailed plans for just 5 platforms, and none of them was a heavy truck... Hopefully the Koc family can keep the Cargo alive now that father Ford plans to be a deadbeat dad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kscarbel2 Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 Ford will officially launch the H62X at the IAA Commercial vehicle show in Hannover, Germany this September. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 1 hour ago, kscarbel2 said: Ford will officially launch the H62X at the IAA Commercial vehicle show in Hannover, Germany this September. . Return of the " Two Story Falcon".......too bad we won't see it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 On 11/21/2017 at 3:58 PM, kscarbel2 said: In this photo, you can see the new H62X cab is a genuine "full-width" European level cab. H62X represents very serious intentions and investment on Ford's part. Well done. . Kevin, is the Cab a Ford Design? or did they build one under licence?? Reason I ask, is It looks very Volvo-ish. however that may change once all the camo is stripped Off..!! Quote "Be who you are and say what you feel...Because those that matter...don't mind...And those that mind....don't matter." - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 26 minutes ago, Hayseed said: Kevin, is the Cab a Ford Design? or did they build one under licence?? Reason I ask, is It looks very Volvo-ish. however that may change once all the camo is stripped Off..!! No Volvo connection. I'm sure it is Ford proprietary. The cost of designing cabs today has fallen dramatically. Look at the Chinese truckmakers, for example. Most are now using proprietary cab designs (link below). I'm proud of Otosan. They truly have a passion for trucks in their belly. And I'm thrilled to see Bill Ford continue to nurture the Ford-Otosan relationship along. Frankly speaking, the H62X is a big deal, on the same scale as the Transcontinental in 1975. https://product.360che.com/p731/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 Bob, this is the China market variant of the H62X, the JH62X. http://www.360che.com/news/180616/96799.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 What is with this europeon design that makes the cabs look like they are going to fall on their face. Ugly IMO. I agree with TS7, get out of Turkey. They have Iranian caliphate intensions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 The design is dictated by the overall length limits- In the EU they're generally allowed a 13.6 meter trailer in a 16.5 meter overall length. Add in the swing radius and they've only got about 2.5 meters length to fit a cab into. The setback axle is dictated by the weight limits and need for maneuverability. EU hours of service are so much tighter than ours that a sleeper is needed for any truck that runs between cities and double bunk sleepers are common. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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