kscarbel2 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Commercial Vehicle World / February 14, 2017 In a February 14 declaration by China’s Ministry of Industry on motor vehicle production, four version of Ford’s new China market Cargo heavy tractor were revealed including two 4x2 and two 6x4 variants. Model Configuration SXQ4180J1A2D5 4x2 SXQ4180J1A3D5 4x2 SXQ4250J4A2D5 6x4 SXQ4250J4A3D5 6x4 The trucks, produced by JMC Heavy-Duty Vehicle Company, the heavy truck joint venture of JMC and Ford Motor Company, wears the JMC badge. Ford holds a 32 percent stake in the joint venture. The trucks are powered by JMC model JX6D 9- and 13-liter engines, based on Ford’s Ecotorq engines and produced under license. Developed under the code name J19, the China market Cargo has a dramatically different front fascia. The JMV version has a fuller frontal appearance. With clearer edges and corners, the boundaries between the chassis and cab are more evident, giving the JMC version an improved appearance. The grille is entirely different from Ford Otosan’s global market version. Whereas the Cargo focuses on the bottom half of the front fascia, the JMC version focused more traditionally on the upper half of the fascia. The headlamps, and the location of the logo, are also different. The Euro-5 emissions 9-litre engine, rated at 365 horsepower (265kW), is designated JX6D09.365A5. Declared fuel consumption is 39.8L / 100km. The Euro-5 emissions 13-litre engines, available in 390 (284kW) and 420 (306kW) horsepower ratings, are designated JX6D13.390A5 and JX6D13.420A5. Declared fuel consumption is 39.6L / 100km and 39.7L / 100km respectively. Dimensions of the 6x4 tractors are (LxWxH): 6920 mm × 2550 mm × 3520/3610/3960 mm. Curb weights range from 9.12 to 9.82 metric tons. Dimensions of the 4x2 tractors are (LxWxH): 5925 mm × 2550 mm × 3520/3610/3960 mm. Curb weights range from 7.05 to 7.67 metric tons Standard tire choices are 16-ply 12R22.5 or 16-ply 315/80R22.5. Both ABS braking and GPS are standard. A full aerodynamics package is an available option. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 The Chinese version almost looks better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 My god they'll never make it! Air horns on the roof! Deduct .00016 MPG! Almost as bad as stand alone turn signals that are clearly visible and don't get lost in the glare of headlights! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 7 hours ago, Dirtymilkman said: The Chinese version almost looks better. I think the JMC-Ford version does look better. That said, the understanding is Ford Otosan will be introducing a larger new cab soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 8 hours ago, Red Horse said: My god they'll never make it! Air horns on the roof! Deduct .00016 MPG! Almost as bad as stand alone turn signals that are clearly visible and don't get lost in the glare of headlights! Bob, roof-mounted air horns are not common in China. They're typically only seen on show trucks. Typically, air horns are mounted out of sight behind the bumper. Electric and air horns are controlled by the same steering wheel horn button (The air horn valve is electrically actuated). There's a switch on the dash allowing you to choose one or the other. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, kscarbel2 said: Bob, roof-mounted air horns are not common in China. They're typically only seen on show trucks. Typically, air horns are mounted out of sight behind the bumper. Electric and air horns are controlled by the same steering wheel horn button (The air horn valve is electrically actuated). There's a switch on the dash allowing you to choose one or the other. I hear you Kevin on the horns. I assume the install is much cheaper bolting to the bumper plus no worries about roof penetrations leaking. But did I read correctly that Mack was offering an option for a roof mounted lanyard? Horns still behind bumper but driver's ego is saved when a kid gives him the arm pumping motion! Hah-when I was working my way through school I drove a Binder dump truck Truck was registered for 24,000 gross and I used to CARRY 12 ton of asphalt or graded base. Juice brakes so when kids would give me the "horn motion" I would reach up to roof like I was tugging on something while tapping the horn button on steering wheel! Kids beside the road and bigger kid driving the truck! As for the JMC Cargo I would have to believe that body work is a bit more expensive than the Otosan version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 Ford to introduce China market Cargo heavy tractor at Shanghai auto show (http://autoshanghai.auto-fairs.com/general-information/). . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 360 Truck / April 19, 2017 The Ford Cargo-based JMV heavy truck made its market debut at the 17th Shanghai international auto show on April 17. The China market Ford Cargo, wearing the JMC badge, utilizes Ford heavy truck technology including its engine, cab and chassis. The truck is positioned opposite the market’s leading heavy truck competition. The China market Ford Cargo utilizes locally produced FUWA lightweight drive axles. FUWA has received Ford's Q1 quality certification. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Kevin-the Americans (non- Asians) in the picture are Ford people?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Red Horse said: Kevin-the Americans (non- Asians) in the picture are Ford people?? Yes, Bob. Both Ford Otosan and Ford corporate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 Pictures of the China market Ford Cargo at the Shanghai Motor Show product launch. 6x4 - https://product.360che.com/img/c1_s66_b17_s7015_m37891_t0.html 4x2 - https://product.360che.com/img/c1_s66_b17_s7015_m37894_t0.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Any chance that Ford will bring their cabover to the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 13 hours ago, james j neiweem said: Any chance that Ford will bring their cabover to the US. Probably right after they start building Crown Vics again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS7 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Yes, right after they start building the LTL 9000 again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 2 hours ago, TS7 said: Yes, right after they start building the LTL 9000 again. Like these: 2 hours ago, TS7 said: Yes, right after they start building the LTL 9000 again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Zebra bumpers used to be popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS7 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 LTL 9000 was the best heavy truck Ford ever built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 China market Ford Cargo - 6x4 tipper Exterior - https://product.360che.com/img/c1_s63_b17_s7015_m45378_t16.html Chassis - https://product.360che.com/img/c1_s63_b17_s7015_m45378_t18.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 57 minutes ago, kscarbel2 said: China market Ford Cargo - 6x4 tipper Exterior - https://product.360che.com/img/c1_s63_b17_s7015_m45378_t16.html Chassis - https://product.360che.com/img/c1_s63_b17_s7015_m45378_t18.html Serious stack of front springs-unique sway bar ?? Underide protection all the way around-didn't think they were that into the safety aspect. How much of these trucks Kevin is unique to these china built units vs the Otosan/Brazil Crgos?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 8 hours ago, Red Horse said: Serious stack of front springs-unique sway bar ?? Underide protection all the way around-didn't think they were that into the safety aspect. How much of these trucks Kevin is unique to these china built units vs the Otosan/Brazil Crgos?? There's quite a bit of massaging Bob. And most of the parts were resourced from within China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 It's sad that the U.S. truck market is so screwed up that we'll never see this truck in Ford's home country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 Chinese operators are pleased with the JMC-badged Ford Cargo. http://www.360che.com/news/190114/105705.html http://www.360che.com/news/190114/105707.html http://www.360che.com/news/190114/105708.html http://www.360che.com/news/190114/105709.html http://www.360che.com/news/190114/105710.html http://www.360che.com/news/190114/105711.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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