1958 F.W.D. Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Fox Morning News here in Philly just said that they will be measuring the rain from Harvey in "FEET." Currently Harvey is a CAT-2 in strength. I'm not too much of a religious man but I offer anyone down there positive thoughts. If and when you lose power, after the storm get on here when you can and give us all a SITREP. Good luck and GOD BLESS. 1 Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayhair Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 (edited) Thanks for your thoughts. My daughter lives in Corpus Christi. She and her husband and dog left town early this morning for higher ground in Laredo. My brother also lives in Corpus. He's staying just because he's old and hard-headed. (like me.) If it rains the 2 feets or so they are talking about for Houston will be a real flooding disaster for those folks. Edited August 25, 2017 by grayhair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyT Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Just hit category 3! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyT Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Any of you own a tandem dump,tri axle, or dump trailer? During Andrew, which was mostly wind, every tandem dump in America suddenly doubled in price!, as long as it ran and dumped! And headed to Miami (no Dot checks during a disaster) were making 50 bucks an hr24 hrs a day! 25 years ago,mostly sitting in line waiting to dump debris! Rates have to be higher today! During Katrina,which was mostly water they needed dumps and wreckers to haul away inoperable vehicles! I talked to a towing contractor who spent several months there with three wreckers paid by the hr! I believe they contract with Fema or the local municipalities! If Harvey is as bad as it seems to be the local contractors won't be able to handle the volume! Opportunity only knocks once! I kicked myself in the butt during Andrew for owning a flatbed not a tandem dump! I made money hauling roof insulation to Miami but could have made ten times as much with a beat up tandem dump or tri axle! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Any of you own a tandem dump,tri axle, or dump trailer? During Andrew, which was mostly wind, every tandem dump in America suddenly doubled in price!, as long as it ran and dumped! And headed to Miami (no Dot checks during a disaster) were making 50 bucks an hr24 hrs a day! 25 years ago,mostly sitting in line waiting to dump debris! Rates have to be higher today! During Katrina,which was mostly water they needed dumps and wreckers to haul away inoperable vehicles! I talked to a towing contractor who spent several months there with three wreckers paid by the hr! I believe they contract with Fema or the local municipalities! If Harvey is as bad as it seems to be the local contractors won't be able to handle the volume! Opportunity only knocks once! I kicked myself in the butt during Andrew for owning a flatbed not a tandem dump! I made money hauling roof insulation to Miami but could have made ten times as much with a beat up tandem dump or tri axle! rates now are by the yard. Truck gets measured for cubic yd. capacity and then marked. At dump site, a man in a tower looks your load over and gives his best estimate of actual load by percent. 50 yd truck at 90% =45 yds. with a running rate of about $5.50/yd, that truck just grossed $247.50. Then deduct 10% holdback (normal for any damage you did not fix) The holdback usually comes about 3 months later AFTER the job is complete Several things-What is the actual rate? in 2004 with all the storms to Florida, rates were up to $8/yd. After Katrina, some guys were about $3. This was a problem as it ended up as those multi-level marketing things. And lots of time to get your pay In 2004, that kind of money was necessary to get trucks as the economy was good. In 2008, after Ike hit texas, economy was not so good so disaster companies offered just enough to get trucks there-$4.50-$5.00/yd Next item is the experience of the guy in the tower. Bring them coffee and water. They can make ya or break ya Self loaders are VERY welcome as they don't need other equipment and don't take up more road than needed. And yes, I have updated with several already Oh yeah-at the 7pm EDT update-CAT 4 Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyT Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Hat City so the truck only gets paid when the load gets to the dump site? During Andrew the trucks were backed up beyond the horizon! From the turnpike above Homestead and Cutler ridge you couldn't see the last truck! At every main intersection there was a tire service truck to repair the tires damaged by nails broken glass and assorted debris! So as I understand it how long you sat waiting to unload determined your income! Sounds like the brokers found a way to maximize their income and screw the o/o as usual! We're you in S Florida during Andrew? Lots of illegal profiteering! One dude brought in a reefer trailer full of bagged ice,at that time a bag of ice was about 1.50 he was charging 20.00! The cops caught him about half empty, made him give away the rest of the load!😁 All the power was off and people's food and meat was spoiling! People were bringing in 53 ft trailers of those cheap k Mart generators, selling them for up to 500.00 each! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyT Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Saw a bunch of really reasonable tandem dumps on E Bay yesterday ,I'll bet the prices change in the next couple days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Hat City so the truck only gets paid when the load gets to the dump site? During Andrew the trucks were backed up beyond the horizon! From the turnpike above Homestead and Cutler ridge you couldn't see the last truck! At every main intersection there was a tire service truck to repair the tires damaged by nails broken glass and assorted debris! So as I understand it how long you sat waiting to unload determined your income! Sounds like the brokers found a way to maximize their income and screw the o/o as usual! We're you in S Florida during Andrew? Lots of illegal profiteering! One dude brought in a reefer trailer full of bagged ice,at that time a bag of ice was about 1.50 he was charging 20.00! The cops caught him about half empty, made him give away the rest of the load!😁 All the power was off and people's food and meat was spoiling! People were bringing in 53 ft trailers of those cheap k Mart generators, selling them for up to 500.00 each! yep. when you dump. However, the system is much better organized now. Most munincipalities have contractors on 5 year plan. Along with the monitoring company. Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Saw they are predicting 50" of rain in some areas...OVER 4 FEET of rain! I can't even imagine what that would be like. Buy a swimming pool @ Walmart and set it up in the back yard...if it doesn't blow away, it'll be overflowing by the time the storm is over. Absolutely crazy... Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyGunner Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 To hell with the swimmin' pool buy a raft and life vests. Hope all are doing as well as can be expected. Quote The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by the people who vote for a living.The government can only "give" someone what they first take from another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted August 29, 2017 Author Share Posted August 29, 2017 From an emergency services standpoint, at least 27 FEMA USAR teams (or portions of them) are either on the ground in Texas/Louisiana or are on the way. I am pretty sure this is the largest response ever since the creation of the FEMA USAR system. I was listening to the Houston Fire Dept dispatch and operations channel earlier today around 10am. An engine company was asked to respond to a report of a people on the roof of a structure. The Company Officer replied "We are low on fuel and have been going since 11pm last night can you send anyone else?" The Dispatcher replied "You are the only company available right now on that side of town." A few minutes later the company called in and advised "We can see a family with at least two small children on the roof of a dwelling, the water is rising but we cannot get to them, you need to get us a boat as fast as possible." You could hear the exhaustion and despair in his voice. Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfymn Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I saw in the paper this morning that the storm will dump one million gallons of water for every man, woman, and child in south Texas. Unbelievable! Prayers and thoughts to the victims and the many first responders and citizens who are risking their lives to help them. 2 Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfymn Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 The Houston PD reported a line of duty death of a 32 year veteran who drowned while driving to work in his cruiser. The death toll stands at around 30 now, but I would not be surprised if it tops 100 when all is said and done. Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 No telling how many people went up into their attics without the means to cut through the roof if (when) the water didn't stop rising...the final numbers probably won't be in for quite some time. 1 Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macks in nigeria Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 My Family's thoughts and prayers are with those caught up in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mcrafty1 Posted September 2, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) Unbelievable storm, it's hard for someone like myself to wrap my head around this much rain and no place for it to go, I live in Maine, well inland and nearly at the foot of Mtn. Katadin. 500 feet or so above sea level it could rain 20 feet here in 24 hours and the mud puddles would be gone in a day. I offer my prayers to the people in harms way of this thing. I also see the globalists are starting to blame it on climate change.....they are of course right, the climate is constantly changing, and this isn't the first or the worst storm to hit America by any stretch of the imagination, but they conveniently omit that in their rant. Noaa has had on their home page as of late that this is the 2nd hottest season on record....the HOTTEST was 1934...again, they neglected to offer this on the subject. Edited September 2, 2017 by Mcrafty1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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