Popular Post dave41855 Posted September 27, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2016 Here's a couple of photos I have of some St. J Trucking Macks. Not sure what model the old one is, but the others are a little U600 six wheeler and U600 ten wheeler. The main terminal and head office was right here in St. Johnsbury. St. J Trucking died tragically, sudden and for no real reason. Had upper management not had "sticky fingers" the company probably would still be going strong! Dave in VT 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 The older box truck is a Maccar and it was probably built in Scranton, PA. 1 Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave41855 Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 26 minutes ago, j hancock said: The older box truck is a Maccar and it was probably built in Scranton, PA. I take it Maccar has nothing to do with Mack, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post j hancock Posted September 27, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2016 Maccar started in 1912 by Jack Mack, one of the founding brothers of Mack trucks and business partner Roland Carr. Found some notes showing the truck is a 1933 Maccar 100 model. 3 Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave41855 Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 1 hour ago, j hancock said: Maccar started in 1912 by Jack Mack, one of the founding brothers of Mack trucks and business partner Roland Carr. Found some notes showing the truck is a 1933 Maccar 100 model. Thanks J!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 St Johnsbury had a lot of tandem U models with Cummins 903's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave41855 Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 3 hours ago, james j neiweem said: St Johnsbury had a lot of tandem U models with Cummins 903's Yup they did James. Also there were quite a few (here at least) that had air starters. I recall standing by one on main street one day when the driver started one up. Almost filled my britches right then and there!!! You can still see one or two of their old trailers around the country if you look hard enough. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 16 hours ago, james j neiweem said: St Johnsbury had a lot of tandem U models with Cummins 903's Weren't the V-8's U700's??- they had about 3" of added fiberglass on the hood at the wheel wells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 That's a good question R Horse. I don't believe they were U700's The ones I remember seeing were low hoods (600's) The Cummins 903 was a 90 degree V-8. The Detroits were 60 degree v-8's plus they had the supercharger up top Thus the Cummins was lower profile I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 3 hours ago, james j neiweem said: That's a good question R Horse. I don't believe they were U700's The ones I remember seeing were low hoods (600's) The Cummins 903 was a 90 degree V-8. The Detroits were 60 degree v-8's plus they had the supercharger up top Thus the Cummins was lower profile I believe OK Maybe I'm thinking of Detroit powered U's. I'm thinking Roadway had some-I just remember the jacked up hoods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 The 903 was a wide engine, and a lot of manufacturers used various tricks to make it fit. IIRC, Ford used a drop front frame section on the Louisvilles to make room for the 903, and some other manufacturers shaved off the top flange of the frame and even some of the web. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave41855 Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 11 minutes ago, TeamsterGrrrl said: The 903 was a wide engine, and a lot of manufacturers used various tricks to make it fit. IIRC, Ford used a drop front frame section on the Louisvilles to make room for the 903, and some other manufacturers shaved off the top flange of the frame and even some of the web. To my knowledge, the U700's indeed were built to accommodate vendor engines. I do believe that St. J did have some, yes, but Lord knows how many. The hoods were bigger (taller) to do this. See attached photos. The extra hood is visible in both the fenders and the narrow part of the hood top. I've been told that the Cummins 903 could not fit in a U700 because it was too wide. A Cat 3208 was the biggest V8 (other than a Mack V8) that could fit in there. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Used to see a lot of these on the eastern Turnpikes, they needed the big engines to pull Turnpike double 45s but in a short BBC so they could pull a single 45' trailer in the 55' overall length then allowed off the Turnpike. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 pretty cool rig.....broke in on a U model.....always have a soft spot for them...bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) If you look at the David Faust pictures of the Transcon U-models (ex Wilson Freight U's with 903's) they clearly are U-600's. After the founding brothers of St.Johnsbury sold out to Sun Oil the frieghtliners from a west coast buyout showed up in the St J fleet. Sun Oil also bought out Jones motor lines from South Carolina. I believe this is where the IH 2500 and Ford L9000 influence in the fleet came from. There last big purchase was Ford 9000's. There were a few R models in the fleet alsobut they may have been test tractors. It would have been neat if they had more R models . St. J went from L models to B models and then U models. After that IH's and fords. Dave 41's picture of the U could have been 903 powered or 673 inline. Also as I remember the 903 U's had downward exhaust(smoke eaters). If you view the transcon U's with 903's they are also downward exhausts. Edited October 2, 2016 by james j neiweem 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 weed burners lol.....used to be alot of them....bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57 bcr Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 I think Ryder had some 700's as well. As I recall theirs had Formula Cummins 855's in them. Had to be tilted to the right to fit,for sure! Al 2 Quote IF YOU BOUGHT IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT..AND WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH IT, A TRUCK WILL HAUL IT AWAY!!! Big John Trimble,WRVA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john canorro Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Hi guys. I drove for St. Johnsbury in Buffalo NY. I was with Woodins Express when St. Jay purchased us. I worked for them right up to the bankruptcy. 31 years. It was a really great company when the Zabarsky family owned it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RRJordan Posted June 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2021 Here is a story from 40 or more years back that I hope, given today's sensitivities, is still just innocent and funny: We were stranded in a little South Carolina roadhouse during an ice storm along with a couple heading to Florida in their Cadillac. He assured us he could drive in the ice storm because he was a St. Johnsbury driver, held the first license for doubles on the NYS Thruway, and knew all about bad weather. Doubles were new and novel in the East and I was impressed. I asked what he pulled them with. His answer with a straight face was "Italian Macks." I fell for it and he explained they were "Wop-sided U Models." 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 i almost hired on with them,,,in 76 but started with nissens bakery instead,,,,,,nissens had steady work..bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Hi Bob. Just curious where the Nissens Bakery was? Jojo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Harbison Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 On 9/29/2016 at 9:41 AM, dave41855 said: To my knowledge, the U700's indeed were built to accommodate vendor engines. I do believe that St. J did have some, yes, but Lord knows how many. The hoods were bigger (taller) to do this. See attached photos. The extra hood is visible in both the fenders and the narrow part of the hood top. I've been told that the Cummins 903 could not fit in a U700 because it was too wide. A Cat 3208 was the biggest V8 (other than a Mack V8) that could fit in there. Dave There were 2 different model designations for 903 powered U models,U659 and U661,one for turbocharged and one natural,they made 501 of the U659 and only 65 of the U661 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 On 6/21/2021 at 11:09 AM, Joey Mack said: Hi Bob. Just curious where the Nissens Bakery was? Jojo Oh sorry took me a while to find it ha ha I was out of Lynn Massachusetts but they had a lot of bakeries maine New Jersey New Hampshire Connecticut Rhode Island… The Lynn bakery is no longer there they even tore down the building lotta good memories of course I was a lot younger than as well lol… bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 OK, Just curious. I lived in Portland Maine for a long time and could smell the bakery everyday... Jojo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 I used to go there all the time in the 70s and yes 10 four on the aroma I worked in Lynn for five years and never got tired of it move to California in 1980 then to Reno is 94…. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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