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Does it have to do with the motor mounts you are using and/or where the motor mounts bolt to the truck's frame? Perhaps there is variances in these that are causing the engine block to be located farther back. How much room do you have in the front?

Sorry but it was not me that bought them. It was @BGarofalo that bought them for $580/tire I think he said. I was just agreeing with him that they last longer than the Chinese tires in my experience. Personally, I run caps on my drives. For my application they are the best solution. I run very few miles and am operating at fairly low speeds. They last me a very long time. I purchase Michelin or Continental steer tires when needed.

Diamler Trucks North America. Its the North American arm of Daimler Truck AG, which is a massive German OEM that makes Mercedes Benz commercial trucks. Diamler Trucks North America owns Western Star, Freightliner, Detroit Diesel, and the former Sterling brand that was the former medium and heavy duty Ford trucks. I think Diamler Truck AG owns several different brands of trucks in different markets all over the world.

This. I can't stomach the thought of running the cheap Chinesium tires. Especially on a steer axle. A lot of guys say they are fine but I don't know. Look at the quality of everything else manufactured in that country. Why would tires be any different? They just don't hold up like a Michelin, Continental, Goodyear, etc. in my experience.

I agree. I still don't understand twin stacks on an inline 6 engine period....there is only one manifold. If its and E9, 3408 Cat etc. I can understand the use of twin stacks with those engines but even those I think join together shortly after the manifolds to go into the turbo. A lot of the new trucks with emissions and DPFs just have a dummy pipe on the drivers side that goes under the cab and is open ended. For looks only. My 94 RD Dump has a factory weed burner exhaust and I actually like it better than having a stack. I don't have to worry about the side of my bed getting all sooted up. Also I think its a little quieter having the muffler down underneath vs. vertically up next to the cab...If had a dollar for everyone who told me to put a stack on it I wouldn't need to work anymore 😂

I think its a supply and demand thing. A 425 float is a very commonly used tire available almost anywhere. They benefit from commonality and competition of many different brands making them. These 12R24.5s are fairly scarce by todays standards and not many companies make tires in that size anymore. The 12.00x24 is on a whole different level of scarcity yet. I think Bridgestone is the only "name brand" company left making virgin tires in that size at least available here. That's why you see such ridiculous prices on them.....They are the only game in town.

Its funny how supply and demand works. A Michelin or Goodyear in 11R24.5 is about $500 less than the exact same tire in 12R24.5. Is there really $500 less rubber and steel in an 11R24.5??????? WTF? At least you don't need 12.00R24s. They are like $1500 each now.

Man I was just looking at 12R24.5 and the options are extremely limited compared to an 11R24.5. Your basically screwed into $1200/apiece Michelins / Goodyears or some Chineseium brands with little to no information on. 12Rs carry about 550 pounds more in either dual or single configuration over a 11R tire. Have you considered going to a 11R24.5 or do you need the extra capacity?

I am no expert at all on Whites (or Macks for that matter) but I understand the cab is or is a version of the Autocar "Driver's Cab" developed in 1950. When White acquired Autocar they began using this cab on Whites as well as Western Stars. This cab was replaced with a completely new model when the Road Boss 2 came out in 1976 or 77. Volvo acquired the rights to it when they purchased White Motors in the early 80s and was used up until the late 90s or early 2000s. I think the Autocar Driver Cab was still used to some degree well into the 1980s with the White AT64 and possible some other Western Star models. Information of White Trucks is almost non existent and their forum is all but dead last I checked. For a company that was so big information on them is very hard to find. I don't have any knowledge of where Brockway sourced their cabs prior to Mack buying them out. After that they used versions of Mack cabs.

Probably got a mouth full of asbestos in the process.....

Yes I will concede this forum is probably by definition and in reality a form of social media. And I actually have contracted services from a fellow forum Member who I did not previously know sight unseen so I guess I will eat some crow there. I just think that as a one man band you open yourself up to too much negativity and bad reviews on FB and Google that could hurt you in the long run. I see so many good small business that have bad reviews or less than 5 stars because some moron got butt hurt about something. And like you said the way of the world is everyone puts so much stock in those ratings and reviews anymore…. Joey it sounds like you already have as much work as you need anyway. I think you would have much more meaningful relationships and contacts by going out in person and selling the service that way based on your reputation. Word of mouth referrals will follow. Plus you are only heading out in a 30 mile radius from home….

I'm a Millennial.....36 years old. Most people that know me say I was born 40-50 years too late. I grew up around extensive technology. Had a computer in every grade of school. Learned some programming in college. I use a computer every day of my life now and have a smart phone I use for tons of things but social media is not one of them. I refused to ever get involved with it. I really can't stand it on so many levels I won't discuss here. When I got into trucks as a hobby then as a part time side business I leaned on people I knew who were already in the business for knowledge and contacts. If I needed a specific service or parts or whatever I talked (you know real social interaction) to friends and acquaintances that have been in the situation before. This way I knew for sure of the specific vendor's reputation and abilities. I have the same method for just about any roadblock, question, or need in life I don't have experience in. It has worked very well for me over the years. I'm not hating on people who use FB. To each their own but I don't need it and don't want it.

THIS^^^^^^. I cant take anything with regards to Facebook seriously. If your only presence is via FB then I don't need your services.

Years ago at one of my first laboring jobs as a teenager we had one in a 1988 GMC Top Kick dump truck. 33,000 GVW with a 2 speed rear end. I couldn't drive it because it was a CDL truck but everyone who did abused the ever loving snot out of that truck/engine. Always overloaded. Under maintained and just down right abused. Some of the guys did it intentionally because the rest of the truck was just utter GM junk and they didn't like driving it. That thing never missed a beat. That engine would start and run no matter what. The company ended up selling it years later to a farmer who just wanted it for his property. The frame got bad rust jacking and nobody would pass the state inspection on it. Ran like a sewing machine when the guy took it away. That's my only experience with a 3208 but have always heard they were underpowered for their size (10.0L) and not "good" engines.

I read this as you intend on putting an AI harness and ECM on your AC engine. If I'm correct there's no way that will work. The two engines are different internally. There are some real ASET experts on here that will clarify though. If I am wrong I guess you would just need to find an AI ECM from a truck that has the same series Allison transmission you have.....

Also, I bought 3 axles worth of brake drums, shoes, hardware and wheel seals a year ago from the Mack dealer and I think they were into me for about $2300 in parts (that might have included the shoes core charges). This was for 1 Mack 44,000 drive axle, 1 Mack 18,000 pound steer axle, and 1 Spicer 20,000 drop axle. All Dayton wheel/hubs. I could have saved a little money buying TRP junk but I opted for the Gunite drums and Meritor shoes and hardware. The seals they sold me were SKF.

Are these the kind of shoes you can reline yourself with brass bolts? I have herd of these but never seen them. Maybe that is how they all were a long time ago. I don't know......

More time working and less time on BMT.......😂

Yea a machine shop have the luxury of holding onto the block until you come and pay for it. With a mobile service like this you are going to the place/person with the engine, doing your work, and leaving. Mail an invoice to them and hope you get paid. But like I said before most shops/garages assembling engines have to have a decent enough reputation to be doing engine work so you would think it wouldn't be a problem to get paid in most cases. May take a while. Net 30 used to be the "normal" payment terms now it seems to be Net 60. There is also Net 90. I have started seeing "paid when paid" as well.......

Also do you have machining spec books and information for just Mack engines or can you do Cat, Cummins, Volvo, Detroit? I mean if you got specs for N14, Series 60, D12, and 3406E/C15 engines you open up the doors to that much more work....

I don't know. Most people looking at Facebook are not assembling engines and most engine builders are not looking on Facebook for a better or more convenient outlet for counterbore cutting. They probably just have the machine shop doing the head or grinding the crankshaft etc. cut them. I think you should think of all the fleet mechanics or repair shops in your area that actually do engine work/assembly and go directly to them and talk to them. Give them a business card and flyer with your capabilities on it for them to look at. I think you will have more success actually going and talking to these people than advertising. The actual number of people who need this service is miniscule in comparison to the amount of people who own and need engines rebuilt because the vast majority of people don't rebuild their own engine. They have a shop do it.....That's just how I see it if that makes sense.

Yes I agree. Getting close on the road as well. Can't say how I know due to non disclosure agreements but it is a lot closer than people think. The company in particular I am speaking of has the financial backing from Wall Street, some of the largest powertrain component manufactures in the business, as well as a couple of the mega fleets. The biggest obstacle with it all is the actual legality surrounding it is currently very gray considering how many jurisdictions a truck passes through on a single trip. Most in the business will concede though these trucks will be for terminal to terminal interstate routes....at least for the time being. I'm sure a time will come when everything can be economically automated. Considering how far technology has come in a short amount of time its just not that hard to imagine if you really think about it.

I originally said no way in hell would I run that if it was just a "new" spindle butt welded in place, which it sounds like what you are saying was the case. No disrespect to whoever decided that was a good idea but.......

I think Mack calls their version of this nonsense "Grade Gripper". My manual transmission commuter car has it and I despise it. If you actually know how to start a manual transmission on an incline it actually makes it harder to start out with because your feet are faster than the electrical nanny holding you on the hill. By the time it releases you are all screwed up with your timing. Its hard to describe but basically it sucks lol.

It has been a long time since I drove the DT12 automated manual (air operated clutch) but I don't think it engages until you get onto the throttle. So you could do as you say and sit there on a level surface and not move while its in "Drive". I might be off on that but I think that's how I remember it. An Allison is a different animal and will move you due to the viscous coupling to the engine the torque converter provides.....just like a pickup.