Red Horse

Joe-So this is start of a vinyl liner pool and you pour all around exterior perimeter to lock it in in addition to helicals with turn buckles?

LTS with spokes to boot! -and like 46 rears?

????either wrong caption or wrong picture. Looks like a Value Liner to me.

Well I went to my B model "Operation and Maintenance Manual" . No publication date but it covers, B, G, H and N models so my guess is late fifties. Two Mack Branches in CA- one in LA at 2001 S. Alameda St. and one in SF at 1745 Folsom. Again these were Branches so there could have been Mack dealers in the state

Got it. Speaking of that I was talking to the commercial/municpal mgr this AM at a local Ford store. He has done very well with DPWs using 550's and there is a lot of interest in the new F-600 for wing applications. Apparently while they liked the 550, the thought process is same truck as 550 but with heavier axles.

How can you say it is NOT the current product? They are not in class 8, their class 7 has no options to speak of, and no tandem. Class 5 and down they do okay, but even there, with the new GM/Navistar JV trucks, the competition just got a lot tougher. No doubt the competition is good- but let's face it, Ford is a "no show" today . Daimler bought a lot of market share for 300 mil when they bought Ford's heavy truck business.

Hah-well further to this, I'm overseeing a job at my homeowners association tennis courts-ripping up asphalt. owner/op backs in with a beautiful new WS (4700?). So I say to guy, "Nice truck-but I hate Freightlner-I'm an old Mack- Ford guy". He says I'm an old Ford guy too that is what this replaced - we talk some more and I pull up this picture from my I-phone. that I took two years ago--his old truck-Cat powered LT-9000

Ouch-so I would guess someone on the line failed to put a key zip tie in place? did they offer you an explanation at least? And maybe X hours of free service?

Hah- I was always of belief when you hit a deer, cow etc less chance you lost control as cheesy bumper would not be jammed into front tire Probably all of above were contributory reasons.

thx Jim & Hayseed

Beauty-and what did that have for power??

Nice LTL's but is it my imagination or are those cabs wider than the versions we had in US? And are those real two piece windshields?

Nice Jim-this a Nortrax site?

And in construction, heavy haul, etc etc.🙄

Right-and I dont see how those economics work. Another disruption to the Cummins production line I would imagine to paint them silver and tweak them however Paccar wants? takes me back to the late 60's when Cat designed the 3208-with I believe some Ford money??-and it started life as a Ford exclusive. But this is different. International is taking those same engines and sticking them in the MV-red color and all I believe. I would have to think they are getting a better price than Paccar. seems like a Hollywood movie set to me....open the door and there is nothing in back of it🙄

So trans is Eaton? as Maxidyne says. Less than honest spin by Paccar

Yes my thought on Mack-but when you look at the options, looks like at this point a very narrow market. The only trans is a 12 spd AMT. I am told pavers around here don't want AMTs as they don't work well with paving machines-maybe BS-just what one guy told me who works for a good size used equipment store-trucks and construction-he just took in 5 Pinnacles with 500m miles and M drives-dry freight trucks. Also their only rear is a 40,000. And their front is a 20,000! Talk about a mismatched axle pair. Kevin-assuming trans and axles come from EU?

Ah Matt but it does- I took this picture on March 29, 2019

Can these guys build these new "Diamond Reos"?? I'm sure they can. Can they build them and make a profit? Sure -if enough people are willing to pay the price. My bet is there is no way that is going to happen. Maybe twenty years ago this might have been possible. But with today's regulatory bullshit and all kinds of compliance issues, I don't see how. "Economy of scale" is a buzzword we all hear about-and unfortunately I think it is a real factor. And by the way- Osterlund tried doing it twenty years ago right? And that didn't work. Hope I'm wrong.

No Denis still has the last Superliner built.

And if you sat in it, you would never guess it has over 1.4 million miles on it. But in typical fashion when Denis did this over, end result is it is like new.

Try Brewster FD in Brewster MA. They had one on a truck that they removed. I'm assuming this ios the three bulb device that rotates like a propeller??

So when do they hit Italy, France, Germany and take on the big guys??

Ahh-Telebelt-what a labor saver!

Every year I recall reading about a reunion these guys had. I believe they had a rare bottle of scotch and the last two attending would open it. My alma mater's annual calendar's April picture was the crew of the Whirling Dervish and a guy from the class of 1940 was on that. He was wounded by AA fire but made it back. When you talk about flying into the face of death, carrier was spotted by the Japs some 200 miles from the intended launch point. They launched at that point knowing they would probably not have the fuel to make it to their designated landing strips in China-that is if they survived the AA fire and the fighters. Sad thing is every day we lose another piece of history when these guys pass on. And for sure it is doubtful that kids in school today get taught anything about WW II. One thing I can say, my generation had the good fortune to learn something from the TV of our era- The Victory at Sea series.