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[Mark T]

Can't help but think Freightrain could clear this up. But I'm pretty sure a 351M is in the 335 family.

[The Rubber Duck 006]

Hope this helps. 

[The Rubber Duck 006]

8 hours ago, 1958 F.W.D. said:

351M? I know thats a destroked 400....But is a 351M the same as a 351 Windsor? 

351M is a 5.8 liter V8 alot of guys call them a 351Modified 400. 400M is a6.6 liter V8. 

[The Rubber Duck 006]

Very good motor and I removed the stock exhaust and had Custom straights to cherry bomb mufflers to 3 inch tips put on my Bronco. And didn't have a catalytic converter to worry about just true dual exhaust off each manifold. Loved that Motor!!!

[D-Day]

The 351 M and 400 are based on the 351 Cleveland large block and canted valves the 351 windsor is based on the 289 narrow design and smaller heads with straight valves or perpendicular in line valves kind of like the difference between the chevy big bock and small block, windsor being the small block

[mowerman]

My god that 64 would look right nice in my garage and thanks for the information I have never heard that … and I never even knew what the difference was in Cleveland and Windsor although I’ve had many 351s 

[terry]

On 11/18/2025 at 6:53 PM, other dog said:

A nice lady from the insurance company called me today. She wanted to know where the new '55 Ford pickup would be stored. So I told her "in a carport that's closed in on 3 sides".

With one side being the roof, but I didn't tell her that part. She said "ok, great! thanks, that's all I needed".

Then she called back about about 5 minutes later and said "I've got your numbers, it's 219". 

I didn't say anything at first and she said "is that ok?''

I said "yeah, I just thought it would be a lot more- I thought it would be like a million dollars ". 

 

Nice!!    terry

[1958 F.W.D.]

5 hours ago, mowerman said:

My god that 64 would look right nice in my garage and thanks for the information I have never heard that … and I never even knew what the difference was in Cleveland and Windsor although I’ve had many 351s 

I always thought a 351 Cleveland was a lower HP/Torque for cars and smaller trucks made in Cleveland- and Windsors were higher HP/Torque bigger truck engines made in Windsor, Ontario. 

[other dog]

40 minutes ago, 1958 F.W.D. said:

I always thought a 351 Cleveland was a lower HP/Torque for cars and smaller trucks made in Cleveland- and Windsors were higher HP/Torque bigger truck engines made in Windsor, Ontario. 

Fords are weird. The '71 F100 I had had a 351 in it, not original, but it was smaller looking than this 351M, it looked the same as a 289 or 302. So you've got a 351 Cleveland, 351 Windsor, 351M, and some trucks had a 352, and they've got the 428 and 429 engines which were different animals too...I guess. I always thought the Cleveland was the one to have if you wanted to go fast. But when I was coming up most everybody was racing either GMs or Mopars, very few fast Fords around on the street.

 

[other dog]

Got a picture in the mail today, the official photo from the Trucker's Parade Against Cancer. The Mack doesn't look half bad there.

We didn't have our banner on it when they took the picture because we wern't sure we'd even be there, so they put it on a fire truck. We were supposed to go to Raphine that day and pick the yellow '55 Ford up, but the man bringing it broke down in Jackson, Ohio so he turned around and went back to Indiana.

My wife informed me that we had an official picture from last year, but I don't recall ever seeing it before.

 

 

[Mark T]

1 hour ago, other dog said:

Fords are weird. The '71 F100 I had had a 351 in it, not original, but it was smaller looking than this 351M, it looked the same as a 289 or 302. So you've got a 351 Cleveland, 351 Windsor, 351M, and some trucks had a 352, and they've got the 428 and 429 engines which were different animals too...I guess. I always thought the Cleveland was the one to have if you wanted to go fast. But when I was coming up most everybody was racing either GMs or Mopars, very few fast Fords around on the street.

 

Clevleland was the first of the 335 family. Back in the late '60s when Ford came out with the 460 someone from Ford looked at a Big Block Chevy's canted valve arrangement and said "hmmm.... we need something like that" So they made the 460 and 429. They were called the 385 family.  Oh, and they were coo coo powerful just how they came in the land yatchts they came in  (Lincoln Mark 3s  365 HP/500lb/ft torque and the 429 Thunderjet wasn't too far behind 360/480) Then there were a handful of high performance 429s . Then they decided to use the same arrangement in a smaller engine. The 351 Cleveland. The first ones were pretty strong and responded to being hot rodded. They were sorta short lived though because of strickter emission requirements.  By that time, The FE family (352s, 360s 390s 406s 427s and the 428) were all gone. The 351M was still a 335 (as well as The 400M) and kinda filled the void of the 360s in the light trucks. The old 289s, 302s and 351 Windsors were all based on the same platform. The 302 and 351 Windsor seemed to hold on a while in pickups and passenger vehicles. Ford must have spent a fortune retooling over the years, they had lots of different engines , many for the same applications too.

[The Rubber Duck 006]

3 hours ago, Mark T said:

Clevleland was the first of the 335 family. Back in the late '60s when Ford came out with the 460 someone from Ford looked at a Big Block Chevy's canted valve arrangement and said "hmmm.... we need something like that" So they made the 460 and 429. They were called the 385 family.  Oh, and they were coo coo powerful just how they came in the land yatchts they came in  (Lincoln Mark 3s  365 HP/500lb/ft torque and the 429 Thunderjet wasn't too far behind 360/480) Then there were a handful of high performance 429s . Then they decided to use the same arrangement in a smaller engine. The 351 Cleveland. The first ones were pretty strong and responded to being hot rodded. They were sorta short lived though because of strickter emission requirements.  By that time, The FE family (352s, 360s 390s 406s 427s and the 428) were all gone. The 351M was still a 335 (as well as The 400M) and kinda filled the void of the 360s in the light trucks. The old 289s, 302s and 351 Windsors were all based on the same platform. The 302 and 351 Windsor seemed to hold on a while in pickups and passenger vehicles. Ford must have spent a fortune retooling over the years, they had lots of different engines , many for the same applications too.

Back when Automakers actually cared about what Customers wanted instead of just making money. I know that 400M backed by the C6 transmission in my 79 Bronco Could move that 3 ton beast pretty good especially when the other 2 barrels on that Holley 650 kicked in!!