Popular Post james j neiweem Posted August 29 Popular Post Share Posted August 29 If you go on facebook and search Mack Scania (from Leonardo Favaro) you will see the history of the relationship between Scania and Mack. This is the best article I have ever seen on the history 672 Lanova and END 673. Also the V8 history from the Mack 864 through the E9 and the Scania D14 through the D 16. Instead of getting bits and pieces about the history , this article kind of ties it all together. 1 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 So buddy for thous of us that don’t have faceplant post a link!😂 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/#findComment-581758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 It's an interesting history. I think many guys might be surprised the extent of it. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/#findComment-581764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrybarbon Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 15 hours ago, james j neiweem said: If you go on facebook and search Mack Scania (from Leonardo Favaro) you will see the history of the relationship between Scania and Mack. This is the best article I have ever seen on the history 672 Lanova and END 673. Also the V8 history from the Mack 864 through the E9 and the Scania D14 through the D 16. Instead of getting bits and pieces about the history , this article kind of ties it all together. I got the info from the Facebook page, but I apologised because I could not copy the article in 1 page to then post it here. Maybe next time I may improve my computer copying skills 😊 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/#findComment-581766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted August 30 Author Share Posted August 30 I'm in the same boat Harry! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/#findComment-581770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted August 30 Author Share Posted August 30 fjh- Maybee somebody with computer smarts can copy and paste the article from Faceplant to Watts! 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/#findComment-581771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 10 hours ago, james j neiweem said: fjh- Maybee somebody with computer smarts can copy and paste the article from Faceplant to Watts! I know scania had a big hand in the Mack v8 but never new how it all came about!! All I know is after building a few and working on them learning the ins and outs I enjoyed working on them for the most part! 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/#findComment-581806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 hopefully the info can be posted here or I will try to find it. never built a scania/ have worked on them back then, R-400's. 864 's fazing out the new 865/ then the 866's were new. remember driving a new for delivery R-700 / 865 bobtail tractor . dumped the clutch the front axle came off the ground.!!! what a ride and what a sound out the exhaust. LOL 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/#findComment-581809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 I think the Scania / Mack V8 was more about the mighty E9. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/#findComment-581810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Lots of interesting posts … I don’t think I ever seen one … isn’t that what they used in the magerus and mid liner??? Bob 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/#findComment-581819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrybarbon Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 It seems then that the Mack E9 and Scania blocks are identical. Scania has continued with its V8 so, given the scarcity of the Mack E9's and parts, then it should be possible to retro fit a Scania V8 as a readily easy and economical as a substitute motor into a Superliner, subject to the electronics etc. 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/#findComment-581878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post james j neiweem Posted September 1 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 1 The origin of the 672/673 block belongs to Mack with heads for the 672 coming from Lanova and heads from the 673 coming from Scania. So one mystery is the origin of the Mack/Scania V-8 block. Mack or Scania? The heads took two different paths -individuals for Scania and four heads for Mack; There may be other differences also such as crank shafts camshafts pistons etc. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/#findComment-581923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fjh Posted September 1 Popular Post Share Posted September 1 On 8/31/2025 at 7:39 AM, mowerman said: Lots of interesting posts … I don’t think I ever seen one … isn’t that what they used in the magerus and mid liner??? Bob Renault! They got Mack through the E7 era! I wish they would have plowed thru with the big bore six! Finish what they started! 1 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/#findComment-581924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 here is a 2002 engine.. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/#findComment-581925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 I don't think one was exactly like the other, more like whatever arrangements they had lead engineers were allowed to compare notes and such. (like James mentioned) From what I understand it all started with Mack info shared about busses. Whatever , there's a long relationship they had. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/#findComment-581934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 once again thanks to B M T crew ; it proves ones never to old to learn. never had much discussion dealing with history of what was being repaired back then. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/#findComment-581937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted Thursday at 08:25 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 08:25 PM Can somebody copy and paste the face book Scania/Mack article to BMT? 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/#findComment-582104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted Thursday at 11:14 PM Share Posted Thursday at 11:14 PM On 9/1/2025 at 7:49 PM, Mark T said: I don't think one was exactly like the other, more like whatever arrangements they had lead engineers were allowed to compare notes and such. (like James mentioned) From what I understand it all started with Mack info shared about busses. Whatever , there's a long relationship they had. Sounds similar to the Diamond T / International relationship immediately after WW 2... The design engineers for both companies were close personal friends... But nobody knows for sure who designed the IH Compfovision cab of 1950.. 1 Quote Brocky Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/#findComment-582117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted Sunday at 04:20 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 04:20 PM I believe the Comfo Vision Cab was built by Chicago Cab now defunct I guess? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/#findComment-582314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted Sunday at 04:26 PM Share Posted Sunday at 04:26 PM IDK, I don't think Chicago Cab made it, They did make the cab on my Dart, however, and that was around the same time period. I haven't found a lot of info on Chicago Cab, other than they were on Elston st in Chicago. The shear volume of Comfo-vison cabbed trucks make it unlikely it was produced by a independent cab maker. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/#findComment-582315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
james j neiweem Posted Sunday at 05:01 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 05:01 PM I just recently read somewhere that it was Chicago cab. Ma bee they built some. My one brain cell can't remember where I heard this. Could have been AI or face book BS. Us old timers with trucking history and knowledge have to laugh at this AI BS. I almost do not want to correct AI as it will keep getting smarter and smarter. There is a logging website on face book that takes parts and pieces from Mack E's and B's, IH KB's, White WC's and A-Cars and conjeur up a truck. They blow it on engine models and years installed routinely. I'll stick with my historical head knowledge and that of others over AI BS for now. I guess in the end they will get it right. Yeah looking up Chicago Cab gives you a lot of info on yellow and checker cab rabbit holes! Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/#findComment-582319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted Sunday at 05:31 PM Share Posted Sunday at 05:31 PM On 8/29/2025 at 11:41 PM, fjh said: So buddy for thous of us that don’t have faceplant post a link!😂 PLEASE!!!!! Quote Brocky Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/#findComment-582322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocky Posted Sunday at 05:41 PM Share Posted Sunday at 05:41 PM The late Leroy Gurganus, a Diamond T historian, from Jasper AL told me it was Chicago Cab, or a very similar name, who stamped all the cab parts. He did NOT say if IH assembled their own?? But Diamond T did assemble their own stamped pieces. Thus the DT and IH cabs are not totally interchangeable due to different cab mounts. I does not surprise me that Chicago cab did assemble the cabs used on Dart, Hendrickson, and the many others who used it. Quote Brocky Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/#findComment-582323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted Sunday at 05:42 PM Share Posted Sunday at 05:42 PM McLaughlin Body in Rock Island, made a lot of cabs and stuff for the Military trucks, may be? They are or were still in Rock Island, Il last I knew. One reason I don't think Chicago Cab was involved as they seam to disappear around the same time, but the Comfo-vision cab continued into the late 60's. I haven't seen or heard of either truck mfg buying Chicago Cab, they just seam to fall off the radar screen. By the late 50's Dart was using other cabs, and were briefly absorbed into KW, then Unit Rig, then ??? CC may have made prototypes or may have had no hand in it at all. The Comfo Vision is like the Ford "C" Budd cab, that Mack also used for a short time, Did Budd stamp out all of them? I kinda doubt it. So many low volume Mfg used the Comfo Vision cab, whether they bought the stamping in knock-down form, or paid for the rights to make it, I don't know. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/#findComment-582324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted Sunday at 05:49 PM Share Posted Sunday at 05:49 PM When I got my Dart, I spent a lot of time trying to find info on CC and didn't get far. Since the Dart data plate was missing and the frame so heavily modified, I was trying to find another angle to "date" the truck. CC was a dead end, and the Stewart-Warner gauge panel came closest to dating the truck to the early 50's. I does have a Chicago Cab plate on it. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75910-mack-scania-engines/#findComment-582326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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