Brandt Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Not sure where to put this, so I'll try here. I bought an old trailer several years ago and the tires are in need of changing. While removing the inner lugs; 2 of the square ends sheared off. Pipe wrench is a fail, so what other ways is there to get these off?? I cut down the side of one with an angle grinder, but couldn't get all the way to the rim. I'm thinking that I can't get to the rim with a torch either (w/o doing damage to the rim). This trailer has old skool brakes and would require a lot of work to replace the lug stud, if I just cut the stud off. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75807-budd-lug-woes/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago There is a special tool that is made to get the inner nut off when that happens. It isn't 100% effective, but does work most of the time. https://www.jbtools.com/ken-tool-30165-dual-wheel-lug-stud-remover/?wi=off&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22174825632 you pound it on and then wrench the nut off. Once you have ground down one side, I don't think it will work. just cutting above the rim may not do it. You may have to pull the hub, if inboard drums, and remove the nut in the drum and drive the stud out. If that is what you mean by "old Skool" brakes! I think you may be to the point where you have to decide "what to destroy" to get the rim off, and replace the destroyed parts. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75807-budd-lug-woes/#findComment-579898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago you got the outer nuts off which would indicated going right direction of thread ; not tightening inners due to left/right hand . depending on how much you cut with die grinder . which is #1 method for broken removal. two ways which have proven successful :: 1- install the outer nut back on close to wheel and weld it to inner deep socket /impact try removal 2- drill number of small holes in broken inner nut close to rim . then the pipe wrench. another reply just came in ; possible same. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75807-budd-lug-woes/#findComment-579899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago being "an old trailer" going with idea these are steel wheels not alum which would have the thinner shank inner nuts. option two of drilling the bevel on inner nut allows for penetrating oil to soak threads/nuts , also weakens the inner nut. after drilling inner bevel . a few smacks with BF hammer at broken end helps loosen situation on occasion. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75807-budd-lug-woes/#findComment-579901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago DON'T allow frustration to confuse the brain cells to point you do everything and still the MF nut doesn't move only to find out you were turning it the wrong way !! now who would do that ???😱😱. here I am folks. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75807-budd-lug-woes/#findComment-579904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Lefty tighty,,, righty loosy.. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75807-budd-lug-woes/#findComment-579905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, Joey Mack said: Lefty tighty,,, righty loosy.. but there are some of US not wrapped to tighty and use the highway arrow signs to know proper direction.🤣 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75807-budd-lug-woes/#findComment-579907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Joey Mack said: Lefty tighty,,, righty loosy.. now I'm confused : does that hold true for budd wheels of older days?? left hand thread is "backwards" thread. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75807-budd-lug-woes/#findComment-579910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago I dont know, i assume so. Id like to think the end of the inner lug is stamped, R or L. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75807-budd-lug-woes/#findComment-579913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Hub pilot are all right hand thread, Stud pilot (what some refer to as "Budd") are right on right and left on left 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75807-budd-lug-woes/#findComment-579914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago I have come across where someone has swapped a hub from side to side, so always a good idea to check first. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75807-budd-lug-woes/#findComment-579916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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