Popular Post 1958 F.W.D. Posted February 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2022 So a while back I posted pics of the beginning of our new firetruck, being built by HME/Ahrens Fox out in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Yes- Hendrickson who still builds crane and heavy application chassis but their main bread and butter these days is firetrucks. I meant to post pix of it as it went through construction but forgot to keep up I mean got really busy with work and family obligations. So here are a few selections for your approval. I mean, it would be nice if you approved but just in case you don't approve I will not lose sleep because I approve. First up is the chassis. The frame, all crossmembers and the torque box and outriggers for the aerial ladder are all galvanized. The engine is a Cummins X15 set at 600 with a Jake. (We spec'd a 565 but the offered a 600 at no cost so who were we to say no?) Transmission is an Allison Worldseries (I think an AVS4000) 6 speed. Rear suspension is a Raydan air-bag assist walking beam and Meritor axles and disc brakes all the way around. Here is the rear suspension- the Raydan air bag walking beam and the disc brakes. Here is Jessica. The body is bolted, modular stainless steel. Here is the right side. 5 1 Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 I don't know why but it won't let me load any more pics. I guess Other Dog melted the server with all his Girls In Car pixtures. Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 My guess is Jessica Is in R+D? I"m Looking for a career change.. Let me know if I can be of service. I can bring my tool box... jojo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Certainly a hefty SOB and yes I like the chick……. Lol bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryS Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 If Jessica approves that's enough for me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post other dog Posted February 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2022 On 2/23/2022 at 8:37 PM, 1958 F.W.D. said: I don't know why but it won't let me load any more pics. I guess Other Dog melted the server with all his Girls In Car pixtures. Here's a girl on a boat then- 6 Quote Producer of poorly photo-chopped pictures since 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 On 2/23/2022 at 8:35 PM, 1958 F.W.D. said: So a while back I posted pics of the beginning of our new firetruck, being built by HME/Ahrens Fox out in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Yes- Hendrickson who still builds crane and heavy application chassis but their main bread and butter these days is firetrucks. I meant to post pix of it as it went through construction but forgot to keep up I mean got really busy with work and family obligations. So here are a few selections for your approval. I mean, it would be nice if you approved but just in case you don't approve I will not lose sleep because I approve. First up is the chassis. The frame, all crossmembers and the torque box and outriggers for the aerial ladder are all galvanized. The engine is a Cummins X15 set at 600 with a Jake. (We spec'd a 565 but the offered a 600 at no cost so who were we to say no?) Transmission is an Allison Worldseries (I think an AVS4000) 6 speed. Rear suspension is a Raydan air-bag assist walking beam and Meritor axles and disc brakes all the way around. Here is the rear suspension- the Raydan air bag walking beam and the disc brakes. Here is Jessica. The body is bolted, modular stainless steel. Here is the right side. ALL the pictures are fine.. can't post anymore "likes" so my approval is there. the use of disc brakes on such a large unit better in todays world ?? another example of changing technology i'm guessing. did brakes on daughters car couldn't believe the tiny little brake pads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 disc breaks do not suffer fade like drums do, and do not require constant adjusting either.. since fire trucks do a lot of braking, i would imagine they would be better than drums for firetruck service. the tradeoff is the disc do not last as long as drum brakes 1 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storkmack Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Our disc brakes last 3-4 times longer than the drum brakes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 interesting. when ordering the two new trucks, we wanted to try disc brakes and dealer told us to stick with drum brakes because the disc did not hold up to heavy construction use. 1 1 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mechohaulic Posted February 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2022 that's why i questioned the disc on that chassis.as with every item , each application has a specific need . a fire truck in city stops alot but much different than a firetruck in country hill setting. disc first came out in truck application it was a total nightmare. then there's the opinion factor;; everyone has one. what works for one situation won't always be best for another. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mechohaulic Posted February 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2022 maybe we should ask Jessica her thoughts on the matter.. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 i understand they hold better or work better cant really say its all in the foot pressure,,,if you ask me.. you have to be carefull washing your truck what i dont like you squirt water in the big holes in the bud rims and you get black brake soot running down the rim,real pain in the ass...bob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mowerman Posted February 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2022 40 minutes ago, mechohaulic said: maybe we should ask Jessica her thoughts on the matter.. she would probably reply with,,,i dont know fatman,im a model not a truck designer......bob 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storkmack Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 5 hours ago, tjc transport said: interesting. when ordering the two new trucks, we wanted to try disc brakes and dealer told us to stick with drum brakes because the disc did not hold up to heavy construction use. We do a mix of work, and have been specing disc brakes since 2015 on all of our new equipment. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) Well Jessica told me that a wheel end repair including a hub, rotor, pads, misc costs, and labor an be over $2000.00 / wheel end.. Been there fixed that.... While a 3600 drum and a set of 4707 QP shoe's is under $300.00... Jojo Edited February 26, 2022 by Joey Mack More content needed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Do or will the disc last longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Our mechanic couldn't find auto slacks for the RD,should have told him I wanted disc lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Mackey... too funny..... I am always scratching my head lately... I have to bring the slacks and air fittings and air valves and so on with me every time, because they have no clue what im looking for, and these parts were standard issue... Good luck getting what you need... jojo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mechohaulic Posted February 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2022 58 minutes ago, Joey Mack said: Mackey... too funny..... I am always scratching my head lately... I have to bring the slacks and air fittings and air valves and so on with me every time, because they have no clue what im looking for, and these parts were standard issue... Good luck getting what you need... jojo two days ago I went to the reputable truck parts store - i've delt with for yrs , asked for a trailer hub cap WITH removeable center cap for filling, they had no idea what i was looking for. they weren't aware of a difference . new caps are made with NON-removable red center cap. need to take out the allen screw and fill from the side. the unit had glazed over "window glass" on hub couldn't see oil level.changing it to older style for easy of filling. another trip to auto parts looking for wheel lug nuts ; standard 1/2 x24 nuts, kid can't find on computer . says what's it for ? knew i shouldn't have answered. i said a boat trailer, reply " we don't sell boat parts". its the same hub and lug nuts as a car a--ole!! too old for this LOL 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 I know exactly what you are saying... I do it almost every day... I go to Oriellys and tell the young'n how to look it up, even when I have the part number... it's a sad time for us.. jojo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 this is one of many reasons i'm from the "grumpy generation" , i (we) know what our parents and grandparents had ;; not much. we see the next generations have so much (except common sense) just can't understand. If =when the electric grid is shut down this world is in a heap of trouble. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 So true Mech... So true.. It baffles me that as a customer I have to be a teacher to get the parts I need... I want a training bonus... jojo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 going off topic a tad. short version;; yrs ago i go to truck dealer i once worked for. new kid in parts room. i'm looking for an oil pump pick up tube gasket for a 6-71 i put together, i can make gaskets ; NOT that one, too important. kid says i don't have that gasket. i know that parts room i been in it. ' i says = you don't have an engine kit in there( i know he did) . take out the gasket and replace it later" he says i can't do that its not in the computer system. i took the pick up tube and said you want this pipe around your neck. i was p--sed . i got the gasket and paid for a number he had on the computer system. older manager had been there it would have been " take the gasket , i'll mark the kit and call you when gasket comes in and you can pay. so different times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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