Yardo's Pix whenever I feel like posting some, February 2022 version.

[1958 F.W.D.]

So a while back I posted pics of the beginning of our new firetruck, being built by HME/Ahrens Fox out in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Yes- Hendrickson who still builds crane and heavy application chassis but their main bread and butter these days is firetrucks. I meant to post pix of it as it went through construction but forgot to keep up I mean got really busy with work and family obligations. So here are a few selections for your approval. I mean, it would be nice if you approved but just in case you don't approve I will not lose sleep because I approve. 

First up is the chassis. The frame, all crossmembers and the torque box and outriggers for the aerial ladder are all galvanized. The engine is a Cummins X15 set at 600 with a Jake. (We spec'd a 565 but the offered a 600 at no cost so who were we to say no?) Transmission is an Allison Worldseries (I think an AVS4000) 6 speed. Rear suspension is a Raydan air-bag assist walking beam and Meritor axles and disc brakes all the way around. 

Here is the rear suspension- the Raydan air bag walking beam and the disc brakes. 


Here is Jessica.


The body is bolted, modular stainless steel. Here is the right side. 

 

 

[1958 F.W.D.]

I don't know why but it won't let me load any more pics. I guess Other Dog melted the server with all his Girls In Car pixtures. 

[Joey Mack]

My guess is Jessica Is in R+D?     I"m Looking for a career change..  Let me know if I can be of service.  I can bring my tool box...  jojo

[mowerman]

Certainly a hefty SOB and yes I like the chick……. Lol bob

[HarryS]

If Jessica approves that's enough for me.

[other dog]

On 2/23/2022 at 8:37 PM, 1958 F.W.D. said:

I don't know why but it won't let me load any more pics. I guess Other Dog melted the server with all his Girls In Car pixtures. 

Here's a girl on a boat then-

 

 

 

[mechohaulic]

On 2/23/2022 at 8:35 PM, 1958 F.W.D. said:

So a while back I posted pics of the beginning of our new firetruck, being built by HME/Ahrens Fox out in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Yes- Hendrickson who still builds crane and heavy application chassis but their main bread and butter these days is firetrucks. I meant to post pix of it as it went through construction but forgot to keep up I mean got really busy with work and family obligations. So here are a few selections for your approval. I mean, it would be nice if you approved but just in case you don't approve I will not lose sleep because I approve. 

First up is the chassis. The frame, all crossmembers and the torque box and outriggers for the aerial ladder are all galvanized. The engine is a Cummins X15 set at 600 with a Jake. (We spec'd a 565 but the offered a 600 at no cost so who were we to say no?) Transmission is an Allison Worldseries (I think an AVS4000) 6 speed. Rear suspension is a Raydan air-bag assist walking beam and Meritor axles and disc brakes all the way around. 

Here is the rear suspension- the Raydan air bag walking beam and the disc brakes. 


Here is Jessica.


The body is bolted, modular stainless steel. Here is the right side. 

 

 

ALL the pictures are fine.. can't post anymore "likes" so my approval is there. the use of disc brakes on such a large unit better in todays world ?? another example of changing technology  i'm guessing. did brakes on daughters car  couldn't believe the tiny little brake pads. 

[tjc transport]

disc breaks do not suffer fade like drums do, and do not require constant adjusting either..

since fire trucks do a lot of braking, i would imagine they would be better than drums for firetruck service. 

the tradeoff is the disc do  not last as long as drum brakes 

[storkmack]

Our disc brakes last 3-4 times longer than the drum brakes

[tjc transport]

interesting.

when ordering the two new trucks, we wanted to try disc brakes and dealer told us to stick with drum brakes because the disc did not hold up to heavy construction use.  

[mechohaulic]

that's why i questioned the disc  on that chassis.as with every item , each application has a specific need . a fire truck in city stops alot but much different than a firetruck in country hill setting. disc first came  out in truck application it was a total nightmare. then there's the opinion factor;; everyone has one. what works for one situation won't always be best for another. 

[mechohaulic]

maybe we should ask   Jessica  her thoughts on the matter..

[mowerman]

i understand they hold better or work better cant really say its all in the foot pressure,,,if you ask me.. you have to be carefull washing your truck what i dont like you squirt water in the big holes in the bud rims and you get black brake soot running down the rim,real pain in the ass...bob

[mowerman]

40 minutes ago, mechohaulic said:

maybe we should ask   Jessica  her thoughts on the matter..

she would probably reply with,,,i dont know fatman,im a model not a truck designer......bob

[storkmack]

5 hours ago, tjc transport said:

interesting.

when ordering the two new trucks, we wanted to try disc brakes and dealer told us to stick with drum brakes because the disc did not hold up to heavy construction use.  

We do a mix of work, and have been specing disc brakes since 2015 on all of our new equipment.    

[Joey Mack]

Well Jessica told me that a wheel end repair including a hub, rotor, pads, misc costs, and labor an be over $2000.00 / wheel end..   Been there fixed that.... While a 3600 drum and a set of 4707 QP shoe's is under $300.00...  Jojo

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[mackey58]

Wow

[mackey58]

Do or will the disc last longer.

[mackey58]

Our mechanic couldn't find auto slacks for the RD,should have told him I wanted disc lmao

[Joey Mack]

Mackey... too funny..... I am always scratching my head lately...  I have to bring the slacks and air fittings and air valves and so on with me every time, because they have no  clue what im looking for, and these parts were standard issue...  Good luck getting what you need... jojo

[mechohaulic]

58 minutes ago, Joey Mack said:

Mackey... too funny..... I am always scratching my head lately...  I have to bring the slacks and air fittings and air valves and so on with me every time, because they have no  clue what im looking for, and these parts were standard issue...  Good luck getting what you need... jojo

 two  days ago I went to the reputable truck parts store - i've delt with for yrs , asked for a trailer hub cap WITH removeable center cap for filling, they had no idea what i was looking for. they weren't aware of a difference .  new caps are made with NON-removable red center cap. need to take out the allen screw and fill from the side. the unit had  glazed over "window glass" on hub couldn't see oil level.changing it to older style for easy of filling.  another trip to auto parts looking for wheel lug nuts ; standard 1/2 x24 nuts, kid can't find on computer . says what's it for ? knew i shouldn't have answered. i said a boat trailer, reply " we don't sell boat parts".  its the same hub and lug nuts as a car a--ole!! too old for this LOL

[Joey Mack]

I know exactly what you are saying...  I do it almost every day... I go to Oriellys and tell the young'n how to look it up, even when I have the part number...   it's a sad time for us..   jojo

[mechohaulic]

this is one of many reasons i'm from the "grumpy generation" , i (we) know what our parents and grandparents had ;; not much. we see the next generations have so much (except common sense) just can't understand. If =when the electric grid is shut down this world is in a heap of trouble. 

[Joey Mack]

So true Mech...  So true..  It baffles me that as a customer I have to be a teacher to get the parts I need... I want a training bonus...  jojo

[mechohaulic]

going off topic a tad. short version;; yrs ago i go to truck dealer i once worked for. new kid in parts room. i'm looking for an  oil pump pick up tube gasket for a 6-71  i put together, i can make gaskets ; NOT that one, too important. kid says i don't have that gasket. i know that parts room  i been in it. ' i says = you don't have an engine kit in there( i know he did) . take out the gasket and replace it later" he says i can't do that its not in the computer system. i took the pick up tube and said you want this pipe around your neck. i was p--sed .  i got the gasket and paid for a number he had on the computer system. older manager had been there it would have been " take the gasket , i'll mark the kit  and call you when gasket comes in and you can pay.  so different times