Mack NM

[Guy Edelist]

Mack NM is Israel.

The year - about 1949.

[Timothy Maikshilo]

  On 2/15/2015 at 5:57 PM, Guy Edelist said:

Mack NM is Israel.

The year - about 1949. NM.jpg

Now that's quite a load!

[Vladislav]

Guy, who suppied Israel with vehicles in the early times?

British army? Or any international support programm?

I was told Soviet Union sold to Israel a lot of arms after WW2 including captured German tanks and aircrafts.

Is that true?

Thank you for posting that nice shot.

[mrsmackpaul]

Israel looks to be a interesting place that I dont think I will understand they seem to know how to load trucks over there

Paul

[Guy Edelist]

Vlad,

only thing i can assume, the NM was ex British army truck, the last Brits left Israel at 15 may 1948 and a lot of their equipment changed hands, such as Many Mack NR with 131 HP Lanova engines. the biggest diesels we had back than...

Germany signed remedy agreement with Israel in 1952 because of the Holocaust.

Many trucks and Industrial equipment made the way to Israel, such as Mack B31P with a German Henschell 100 HP engine .

never heared about tanks and airplanes.

well some chechoslovakia Avia airplane, replica of German M109 Me aircraft came to Israel, but it was in 1948 era. before the remedy agreement had

been signed.

BR

-Guy

[Guy Edelist]

Paul, Israel is interesting place, back in the '50 the Dead sea works used to pull a 100 ton 2 trailers road train with Autocar DC100 using 200 HP cummins.

and many other stories here..

BR

-Guy

Edited February 17, 2015 by Guy Edelist

[mrsmackpaul]

Guy whats the Dead Sea works ?? you can tell I dont no much about the rest of the world

Paul

[Vladislav]

Paul, that's a good question.

Dead Sea is a lake with too high salt concentration although I'm in doubt it could carry a 100 ton road train on it's surface

[41chevy]

  On 2/18/2015 at 1:16 AM, mrsmackpaul said:

Guy whats the Dead Sea works ?? you can tell I dont no much about the rest of the world

Paul

Made Potash, De Icer, Magnesium Chloride, fertilizers,bath salts and other products from the Dead Sea. It uses solar energy and evaporation ponds to remove sea water. Dates back to the 30's

[mrsmackpaul]

  On 2/18/2015 at 7:12 PM, 41chevy said:

Made Potash, De Icer, Magnesium Chloride, fertilizers,bath salts and other products from the Dead Sea. It uses solar energy and evaporation ponds to remove sea water. Dates back to the 30's

Thanks

Paul

[41chevy]

  On 2/18/2015 at 7:27 PM, mrsmackpaul said:

Thanks

Paul

I only knew the answer because we saw it up close in the mid 80's when we visited friends in Israel. I spend most time at Latrun Museum, the Railway Museum and the IDF museum in Tel Aviv and just looking around. Paul

[mrsmackpaul]

Israel is a place I have always wanted to go and have a look around but it always seems to have some sought of trouble going on or at least thats the way it looks on TV in Australia

Paul

[41chevy]

No more trouble than here in the states. Felt safer in Israel than in NYC..

[Gmerrill0516]

Don't the cops carry the Uzi over there? It's a serious place. You need to think twice before you get out of line over there. Tough crowd. Lots of history and I'd love to go there myself but with all the issues in that next of the woods I'll stay home. So far no big issues at the grand canyon etc. Unless they let me carry an Uzi..Hmmm...that might work.

[41chevy]

  On 2/18/2015 at 11:13 PM, gmerrill0516 said:

Don't the cops carry the Uzi over there? It's a serious place. You need to think twice before you get out of line over there. Tough crowd. Lots of history and I'd love to go there myself but with all the issues in that next of the woods I'll stay home. So far no big issues at the grand canyon etc. Unless they let me carry an Uzi..Hmmm...that might work.

Hell, a lot of DiBlasi's special people carry them in NYC. UZI, MAC 10's or Ghost guns

[Guy Edelist]

Just a few words from the local guy.. Israel is a safe place last year saw record of of 3.5 Million tourists, remember Israel is away from beaten track, no borders with Europe or USA, airfares cost money and also people needs Visa.

Uzi guns are out of service for many years here, police have pistols such as everywhere else in the world ,you might see soldiers or border patrol, all here to keep it quiet.

Israel was fed by british trucks after WW2. many Mack and Ford canada were just the entrance point, we do have heritage of transportation here include road trains of gross 90 ton since 1959.

there is a lot to do here in preservation, we negotiate about keeping the only Mack LMSW we got here, their is a lot of good people who helps, some funds will be helpfully too

[mrsmackpaul]

Guy Im sure it is a lot safer than portrayed on the TV news

The news people only ever publish bad news so dont be to hard on us all as we only get to see is what they show us

Just from my point of view as a farmer in Australia farming in the driest inhabited continent. Anywhere thats hot and dry and they farm successfully Im interested in and there trucks and the history of the place

As for or the other stuff on the news well all places around the world have there own problems

They have shifted some big loads over there with Macks over the years on an Australian forum Im on there's a fella on there that grew up in Israel and he shares some pretty amazing photo's of trucks in Israel

Paul

[Guy Edelist]

Paul,

where are you located, iv'e crossed big areas in QLD, NSW even been diesel mechanic, Australia is a great place.

I Know the guy from Israel in the Australian forum, he is great expert and one of the best we know in Israel for all types of historic trucks and machines.

We share with Australia the need to improvise when it come to heavy loads just because we far away from "mother" America.

[mrsmackpaul]

Guy your right about us having to customize most things to get them to suit our environment

I always find it interesting to see how the rest of the world works

Paul

[41chevy]

Guy, just a bit curious. Why did a lot the MACKS we saw when we visited, had the headlights moved down to the bumpers. Is it a law for how high the lights can be? Paul

[Guy Edelist]

Paul, Townsville was the northen point i made in Australia, really cool place sort of heaven and modern life + some '60 atmosphere.

[Guy Edelist]

Chevy 41

Hope you enjoyed the visit, there is a lot to see.

US origin headlamps were:

1) Too high so they re located to the bumper.

2 )Israel use European standard for A-simetric headlights, means the left headlight beam is pointed a bit to the left to prevent glare of the driving coming towards you. some american manufacturers don't use this system so the whole headlight components had to be replaced,

[Pawel]

Hello!

There was this joke - during the Arab-Israeli wars an Arab company is patrolling and they see an Israeli soldier coming from behind a dune - he sees the Arabs, waves at them and shows them some obscene gestures. The Arab officer orders his unit to attack. They chase the Israeli and aftera while come back to the officer - all badly beaten up and bruised. He asks - what happened? The soldier say: It was a trap. There were two of them!

Have a nice day

Paweł

[41chevy]

  On 2/27/2015 at 5:59 AM, Guy Edelist said:

Chevy 41

Hope you enjoyed the visit, there is a lot to see.

US origin headlamps were:

1) Too high so they re located to the bumper.

2 )Israel use European standard for A-simetric headlights, means the left headlight beam is pointed a bit to the left to prevent glare of the driving coming towards you. some american manufacturers don't use this system so the whole headlight components had to be replaced,

Spent 1 1/2 months in Israel, it was an amazing trip to many museums, battle fields and seeing friends. Paul

[Guy Edelist]

Chevy 41.

The Israeli regulations demands lower headlights, AND European A-Symmetric headlights, means the original headlight set must be replaced anyway.