MackMann85

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all the pics except for the first and second one are older styled models not new ones. you can see the difference in the grill and headlights

I thought this is just a USA Granite chassis with a different hood and sleeper options right? With the same MP8 engine just more powerful since they dont have the EGR we do? But dont get me wrong i do love the looks and the unique tanks and fenders. Ya need those big tanks to get through the outback i guess!

Yeah there were some questionable spending decisions back in the day, operating 6-8 north american truck factories at once and having a half dozen planes and helicopters being good examples. logtruckman, it seems alot of people these days are saying the new macks are the best since 2000 or earlier. but you know it takes years to get a good reputation and a second to ruin it so there are some old mindsets that need worked on. at the end of the day, Mack and volvo are the last truck company who builds all their trucks for the USA in the USA, and that gets alot of respect from me

one of the most popular power ratings right now (depending on what you are hauling obviously). also noted as one of the best fuel mileage ratings

As i suspected. The factual comments of a new volvo cab for mack are based on expectations and market assumptions. I will simply believe it when i see it, at which point please call me wrong.

Just curious on the answer to the above. I'm just not seeing it. Also, the comments on updating the E9 seem off base using simple business logic. When you are selling barely 1-200 of them a year, spending many millions on updating it would be a big money loser, or a massive payback period.

1350-1450 cruise rpm is a good rule of thumb across the board for these engines, move around within that range depending on the application

Could you please elaborate on how the profits of a company like Navistar help the american economy more than Volvos profits as they pertain to the International and Mack brands? I may be looking at it wrong, so thats why i'm asking. As i see it, you sell more International trucks, profit more, and invest/hire in the people and facilities that support those trucks in the USA (or mexico). And along the same lines, you sell more Macks, you profit more, and invest/hire with said profits into the same USA people and facilities that support those trucks in the USA. Which contributes to the American economy in either case. So to me, at least in this example, a US owned company and foreign owned company arent very different in this area. Am i off base here? Does where the bank holding the money is located really matter here if it gets spent in America?

Theres alot of misinformation in your post, but continuing to go back and forth with you is pointless so I will just agree to disagree

I get some of the points you are making but really struggle with some of them. I accepted that we just agree to disagree on just about everything, but in the spirit of giving different opinions, here are two in particular i have trouble with that you said in red. In other words, why should Americans support Volvo, whose North American profits leave our country to support the economy of Sweden? What about the thousands Americans that work at the engine and truck plants that get paid for their work and in turn take their paychecks and buy other american goods? Or the thousands of other jobs for suppliers that sell parts to Mack? And doesnt the money from a sold truck go to paying those very people and improving the facilities they work in among many other expenses here in the USA? For me i'd rather buy a truck BUILT in the USA from a foreign owned company than one built in MEXICO from a US owned company. I just see that as betrayal by US brands. If a Mack was built in Mexico or Sweden i would see your point, but it isnt, so i dont Today's truck is a Mack-branded Volvo, a very sad reality. I resent anyone calling that a Mack Truck in my presence. I get that some parts are shared, and I dont like it a hole lot either. But when i look at a new Granite going by I see a Mack only front axle, hood/bumper, cab and interior, heavier frames, mack rear axles riding on camelback suspension and oh yeah a T300 transmission. Seems to me I about named all the major things that make a truck so I dont really agree that it is only a rebranded Volvo. I've never been to the engine factory either but i'd wager alot of them working there are the same mack engineers that were designing engines when volvo bought them ten years ago. The Titan is totally unique and the cabover garbage trucks are about as Mack as they ever were with no volvo counterpart. So thats how I feel when I think about Mack even if others dont!

I didnt even realize there was a place on here for non trucking related things. I apologize and deleted my prior post. its not that i disagree with the political views on here because I dont i'm just not fond of talkin politics with strangers or on the internet

logtruckman, I see you are a Titan fan and I am too. i think there about the best looking on the road when done up right and i love looking for them when i hunt north maine. anyway Ive been waiting for the new Bulldog magazine to come out and have been checking macks website looking for it. well it came out today and you can dowload it....lots of titans in this issue!!!

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kscarbel = broken record spinning around, and around, and around, and around.....

I would have thought selling 100 trucks was good news? I guess not?

I saw some stuff on the internet this week about Mack selling a hundred military trucks and figured it would be interesting on this message thread...

It means you got one of the first trucks off the line for a new product change. It was a pilot build (means a test build they check afterward to verify production is correct for the new change) and it was ordered by an employee to go to a trade show. After its life as a show truck it was sold and eventually made its way to you.

Lets take a poll about kscarbel and try to figure out why his attitude toward Mack is so poor: 1. He/she used to work for Mack and was fired for a poor attitude. 2. His/her job was lost in the move from Allentown (this would be truly sad and the only good reason in the list to be upset) 3. A Mack truck ran over his/her favorite dog as a child. 4. Doesnt have anything better to do and is a grouch. Normally I would not be so harsh to a stranger, but this is a site for Mack FANS. I guess after the 20th negative post about Mack its just getting old... You obviously care about the company kscarbel, so try not to breed negativity by being negative. If you have only bad things to say, I cant speak for everyone but would prefer you take them elsewhere.

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Not true, Mack frame assemblies are built by LPP in Pennsylvania. Volvo builds the frame assemblies in their VA plant. So maybe you are right for Freightliner but not Mack and Volvo

EPA: Engine fines needed to keep Navistar running The debate over using EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) vs. SCR (Selective Catalytic Reduction) technologies on diesel engines to meet federal emission limits is far from over and indeed has just heated up considerably in court filings. Advertisement </span> Responding in a legal brief to a lawsuit filed against it by Volvo Group North America, Daimler AG and Cummins Inc. for allowingNavistar International to pay fines on its noncompliant engines, the Environmental Protection Agency said that had it not imposed the fines, Navistar "might be forced from the marketplace." EPA said in its defense of allowing the fines that Navistar’s inability to comply with the EPA ’10 emission rules exposed both its customers and employees to “serious harm,” as was pointed out in detailed Dow Jones Newswire report on the case posted online today. Navistar has been paying about $1,900 per noncompliant heavy-duty engine. Before the fines began to be levied, Navistar had been using “pollution credits” to meet the EPA ’10 limits. However, EPA had alerted Navistar that it would run out of those credits by February. "Substantial work was required to meet the current [nitrogen oxide] standard and Navistar was a "technological laggard," stated EPA in its brief. What’s more, the agency contended that were the fines not allowed, Navistar "might be forced from the marketplace." Indeed, as reported by Dow Jones, EPA “projected that production of Navistar's heavy-duty trucks and engines would be suspended for months while the company's engines were evaluated and certified by the EPA. The agency estimated the production outage would cost the company at least $3 billion, more than 30% of its annual revenue. Meanwhile, nearly 4,000 Navistar workers engaged in building trucks and engines would be idled. Suppliers of parts and customers with trucks on order would be affected as well.” The February suit filed by Cummins, Daimler and Volvo accused EPA of disregarding its own rules and thus benefitting Navistar. The claimants want the federal appeals court in Washington, DC, to overturn the fines and require EPA to conduct public hearings before reinstating the fines. In a federal court filing, the Dow Jones report noted, Navistar “described its rivals' complaints as ‘a greedy play’ for market share at Navistar's expense.” What remains unknown at this point is how close Navistar is to having any of its engines certified to the EPA ’10 nitrogen-oxide standard. Also up in the air is what Navistar’s competitors would have done—or been able to do-- to immediately serve those customers who would have been left without an engine/truck supplier had Navistar indeed been “forced from the marketplace.”

A gold bulldog has a part number just like any other mack part and can be bought at a dealership parts dept or I think the mack shop store sells gold and chrome bulldog replacements, even 2/3 scale ones if u want one for a pickup truck or lawn mower. google mack shop