Red Horse

With all the buzz about "One Ford" I can't believe they will not take advantage of at least some of these "sunk" engineering costs-in particular the 9 L engine. They will never get the owner operator market like they tried to do in the old days but for sure they should be able to get a big chunk of the vocational market and in particular class 7 and the lower end of 8. Also if there is still this "anti cab over" mentality (Ford should check with Isuzu, Paccar, Hino about what they see in us market-in particular class 5, 6), perhaps the "new" or should In say rumored replacement cab for current class 5, 6,7 cab will cover a lot of bases. I think the movement of 550 chassis to Avon Lake is a strong signal that something is in the works cab wise. Teamster Grrl-bounce that off your source-in particular the shift of 550 chassis to Ohio.

Agree-but again, is there some sort of restriction that precludes Ford from bringing the FPT based engines to US?? As a practical matter I would think sergio would want as much sales revenue as he can get.

Well interesting point on the interplant shuttle trucks-I would imagine they would "cube out" before they exceed GCW but for sure if they are pulling 102" 53 footers for sure they will get a workout with windload. I have to agree with KSC though that I'm a skeptic when it comes to the Power Stroke/Torqueshift combo in the high end of class 7-never mind 8. And I know they are banking on the warranty as the "hook" as well as the B-10 rating but time will tell. 650 sales are doing very well but my guess is the bulk of those are gas jobs. As for new 750's, none of the dealers in this neck of the woods seem to have any in inventory. In anycase, I agree 100% on the future of intermodal-and you don't need a 15 liter to do that. What I wonder is why are they hesitant to bring one of those 9 or 13 liter engines they are building in Turkey-unless their license with FIAT precludes them from using in US- And speaking of a good intermodal truck, what would be wrong with bringing one of the Cargo variants over- KSC-any thoughts?

So why do you suppose there is never a mention of the F-550 in these ads? OR does F-550 get excluded because they are ony talking about "pickups"?? Once again dumb ass Ford marketing IMO. The F-550 IS going to get the new cab, right? So why exclude the F-550 in all this "horn blowing". Not "chassis DRW??" Meantime Dodge continues to kick butt in class 3-4-5.

What a joke that this was turned down given Dodge's insignificant market shares in class 7 and 8. Forward 34 years to 98 and Daimler steals Ford for 300 mil, and Ford had like around 20% of class 7 and about 9% of class 8. NO PROBLEM! Times sure have changed with respect to anti-trust considerations.

Thx-I'll pass on to him

ok-thx-never knew Mack did not ID an outsourced engine as anything but its true ID-like the 413 Chrysler V-8 etc.

Guys-thx for comments-I believe my pals issue is he can't get replacement filters and that is why he wants to convert both. Maddog-you sure on that Continental in B-42?

Guys, Doing some leg work for a friend. He has two gas jobs- '46 LJ powered by a 707 and a '58 460 B-42. Wants to convert original oil filters to screw on filters. Anyone have a clue as to source for hardware to do this. Thx Bob

On second look I went to the Navistar website. First thought was the greenhouse was the same as old Prostar but not the case- looks like the doors might be same as on new HX.

Doesn't look like the changes are too drastic. I imagine at this point every little bit helpsm in terms of airflow.

Hah! KSC-remember I'm a country bumpkin here in apple country of central Mass! I have to say-pretty impressive website-thx for posting. Do they do much business in EU or is it all former Soviet block. This is where your world perspective brings a lot to this forum. I should not put everyone in the same boat as me but it seems the only thing I ever see is the the dumb-ass things done by "truckers" in that part of the world-like pulling a truck apart when they attempt to tow something, or dumping a load of brick with the tailgate locked and the front end is 8' off ground! Back to that website again pretty impressive-thx for posting For one, Ford US marketing people should look at it and learn something seeing as they have a relationship with these people. And one thing I've always said, when you look at the roads these trucks have to operate on, service capabilities that are out there, fuel quality, these trucks be they KrAZ, Ford Cargo, Iveco, Scania etc, have to be tough.

KSC-Very interesting-who is krAZ and where are these built? What is interesting to me is the fact that I believe BAE in their bid to replace the Humvee was going to use the Ford 6.7 and Torqueshift as their powertrain. I have to admit I was a bit skeptical as I view any V-8 as a bit of complexity-not only in terms of "packaging" but just 2 more cylinders (or 4 for that matter) vs. an inline.

And 6 cylinders of 330 and I think 363 cubes that were offered in mediums in early 60's I believe they too were built in Dagenham. so as KS says-new ones built in Dagenham, that plant has a long history of diesel production

Kevin- Where are these Ford diesels built? And for sure your comments on Ranger/Everest are right on! In particular with respect to Everest. I can understand their reluctance on Ranger given its very close proximity to 150 as far as dimensions. Everest though is a completely different vehicle from the rest of the ford offerings given its BOF roots. I have to believe Everest would present a good alternative-not only to Ford buyers but those who consider those other BOF brands you mention.

Guys-any opinions?

guys-just trying to anticipate future issues-my axle is an FA-519. My build sheet does not list tie rod ends. the only left and right components listed are..."Steering knuckle assembly " (L & R) , and "cross steering Lever" (L & R)

Well I guess the following is good news as far as Mack goes.................. "For all truck brands, Lundstedt said, the future is characterized by concentrating on core markets and not go into each other's strong geographics." My first thought was the "synergism" thing comes up and its "good bye Mack." Hopefully their term "geographics" is not just limited to Geography as we know it but considers the uniqness of the markets that Mack is strong in. Like this

Hmnn-I wonder why Stacy didn't say anything about the International class 7 bucket trucks in the background. C'mon Stacy, when are you going to pull the trigger on some 750's?? Typical Ford medium duty marketing-don't bother to edit out the competition. Small point? for sure but I call it.." attention to detail"

Wow-5.9 L and only 4 holes??? As for the backhoe, looks like they bought the rear fenders from Cat!

I'm with you on the wider cab issue. Also agree 100% that the"large car" market is going downhill as intermodal gains ground-I've posted this thought many times on this site as well as the Ford Blue Oval News site with respect to Ford getting back into class 8. The future will be in the regional day cab tractor and you don't need 600 HP and a two story sleeper to do that. Oh and RoadwayR's comment on the drop down window sill, I myself like that feature-be it on a Ford or a Mack or whatever-adds a little more visibility and a nice look-again-a personal preference- and since Ford first did it-a most copied look.

Interesting-never gave a thought to the impact WW II had (or did NOT have) on Sweden. when you look at the destruction that took place on the rest of Europe-in particular Germany- no doubt Sweden was able to hit the ground running.

Amen- had the same fears early in season-figured no way would they pull it all together in time. Great effort on part of Ford, Chip Gnassi Racing and Multimatic. Time to bring back the old.."Have You driven a Ford Lately" and "Winning the World Over" spots!