Red Horse

Matt- OUTSDTANDING-just make sure you do the same thing on July 13th!

Maybe they added some leafs in front? looks like it sits pretty high!

Okay-how about OLD 11:00 X 24. Clear Summit pit

Now that Matt looks a lot heavier than the typical 12/23 U tractor!

Interesting that Paccar seems committed to this market-this shoud give the Japanese a run for their money. Does the truck come in as a finished import or is the cab brought here in a kit with US assembly. I'm assuming the cab is some sort of DAF product? Just wondering, IMO this is a market that the Ford Power Stroke/Torqueshift combo that Ford will be using in 650/750 could do well in-retail delivery trucks, bottlers etc. With an obvious advantage from a powertrain pricing perspective, what do you think the chances are of shoehorning this V-8 into one of the Cargo cabs? ""One Ford"? Utilization of existing assets (Avon Lake)? Also, while the no compete with Daimler is gone, did the agreement give them exclusive right to the Cargo cab forever??

Now that was a beast- guide said it was going to an oil field service company in Canada. I thought at first they were going to mount some sort of processing equipment on it (Mega pump/compressor etc) then looked at back of cab- its a tractor! I think weight tag on door said 27,000!

And doesn't it all look cheap-or poorly put together? at least that is the way it struck me. Other thing-did anyone notice a lot of the inventory boxes?,,labels, "made in Malaysia", "made in Mexico" etc. then again why should that surprise me. On other thing about that purple MR with the two leaf suspension- I think that was the one that had 315's on the rear-there was about an inch and a half of space between the duals-can you imagine the heat if one of those was low on air and it was loaded to the max...hmnn..."I smell smoke" Our tour guide on the bus said..."you won't see any robots here- all built by hand" I was surprised then thought about it-of course- they don't make anything there -it all comes in as modules-complete cabs, complete hoods etc. In any case clean a a whistle-hope they make it in the long term. Oh and sad to say-never saw a spoke wheel! but now I'm showing my age!

Yes- and you?

Hope you are right-by the way-as the kids would say your truck looks...."awsome"!!!

Wow-long day- and I was looking for you guys-we took the plant tour from like 10 -got back around 1. Hopefully see you guys at Brooklyn.

Well after listening to a lot of comments at the Museum and the Macungie plant this weekend I would have to say IMO, the majority opinion of Mack loyalists, is the new logo "sucks" in plain English. As I look at it, would Ford junk the "Blue Ova"l? Chevy junk the "Bowtie"? 3M start calling "Scotch Tape" something else?? I'm sure the Mack PR types will say its "just another new look" and the classic bulldog will remain but I saw too much of it. From comments to.."the dog is taking a dump" to my wife's.."hmnn-looks like his hind quarters have atrophied", not much positive views of it-again IMO.

Matt- see you guys- headed for Museum tomorrow as day should be a washout.

Matt, unless my memory is totally gone, seems to me a 162" WB tractor and a tank 42.5' OAL made us legal at 80,000

10-4 Mike-after I did the post I did think about the special permits in VT, NH, and Maine- I do believe Mass is only state that waives the BF for permits over 80,000. Even so, it does look like it has a few more inches than even those states require.

Congratulations- was looking forward to seeing it at Lancaster on July 13th, but hopefully will get over to the Museum this Friday or Sat Bob

I think of Boston traffic and I think I would put up the poorer ride!

Here you go Jim-they did it all over last year

EJ- Every now and then you have to acknowledge the other world. On another note, I'm kicking my ass. I'm about to pull on the scale at Pandolph-Perkins in Sterling the other day with the B. Parked along side the scale is a Lazzaro Granite and a Pao Granite-both loaded with asphalt and both spokes on 24's. I thought after, what a picture-3 Macks on spokes, 24's but 58 years apart! (probably same for the drivers!)

Latest French St. Petermobile, ready for delivery at New England Truck, Sterling. Anyone tell me why you would need such a wheelbase when Mass 99,000 lb permits do not follow bridge formula??

2581 lb-ft of torque at 1500RPM! Does anyone make a driveline for on highway use that can deal with those numbers??

Australia- good place for them! In the meantime, the only outfit that I know that bought one in this area, has sold his-had enough.

Cheaper???

Don't ask me where I got this but I thought I read somewhere that Bill wasw in fact one of those who thought it was a mistake bailing out of class 8 in '98. Also I got the impression he was a "fan" of the Otosan partnership. Like I said, if "One Ford" is more than a slogan, perhaps something will come of this. If nothing else these guys at Otosan have to be designing to a very tough standard looking at the terrain /highway network their trucks operate in.

Perhaps some of that development money will filter down to a US EPA compliant Ecotorque 6 cyl of around 9 or 10 liters? After all- "One Ford"??

WOW- KISS-Keep it Simple Stupid! this truck would do very well in this country with those specs. Not everyone needs (or wants) 400HP and 800 ft lbs. of torque. they want a simple power train that doesn't require a ton of sophisticated diagnostic equipment. Yeah I know- I'm living in the past. Well lunch is over-have to go get a load of stone for one of the neighbors in my 1956 B-61X KS-What would it take to get Euro5 to current US EPA standards?