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I hate to tell ya this but by what your describing sounds like a failing roller on a lifter!! Hopefully I'm wrong and I will be happy for ya!

I Agree! I think that is a very viable thought and worth a try! Would cost very little to zero dollars to do that if you do it your self! that will isolate the engine from the trans with the exception of the pilot bearing!

Yup ya got to have the will to build what is needed or wanted by the customer ! THE VOLVO ATTITUDE IS,.......... IF WE DON"T GOT IT! YOU DONT NEED IT !!

My exact thoughts James!

Pros One hr standup oil change if I were to own truck this would be my top pick cons 0

Sorry is this vibration evident while stationary? if so ,take the belt off and run it pretty easy to rule out the fan ! Did you get the ECU straightened out yet ? I still question the balance of the Flywhweel its self , Also what trans are you running ?Mack or fuller? I think your wasting your time pulling the pan your oil metals would have showed if something serious was happening down there!

Quite honestly the alleged 460 of this period in time was borderline power wise due to emission standards ! The 400 would be fine I believe you would be disappointed with a 460 upgrade if you could do it anyway! These engines would max out at 33 psi boost and were programmed to derate At 34 psi ! absolutely stupid !

Guess that rules out a broken crank then Huh!

In my opinion Leave no stone unturned !this may or may not fix your other issue ! However It is something a miss and worth spending 150 bucks or so to try! I just spent 150 on my Honda CRV because my fuel mileage is dropping (No codes ) And i'm chasing this ! They found nothing so I am still where I was how ever I needed to know ! They to a read on it checked the Cat operation ETC everything was in spec so its something the puter ain't seeing physical issue maybe Trans not staying in lockup maybe dirty throtle body who knows going there next thou!

Wishful thinking James!

So when we uproot unit pumps we number them. if that wasn't done then you have no clue where they went back in! in this case you need to confirm the cal codes on the pumps and reenter or confirm them IF YOU CAN EVEN READ THEM they may not even be READABLE NOW (Not positive on this) But I do believe you can see what is in the cal code area on the screen when you go in to change a cal code! Mack teck or mack pro may remember!??

You will likely get charged An hour shop time! just guessing on that! Usually what Mackteck said there is the case AS A RULE u don't swap a customers ECM out with out asking him if it is alright to do so if your using it to check somthing on another vehicle ALWASYS put it back! however people do stupid shit some times! What ever was in your truck data file last time it was flashed will go in to that Ecm including the CAL codes for your unit pumps There is a slim chance That These MAY be causing your other issue . the cal code being different RARELY affect the Engine Running rough But however anything is possible! So As long as that dealer has the old mack software its worth a shot! in my mind! The Reflash with tell you only that the DATA is (Different Or the SAME) and it will ask Do you still want to proceed ! you cant see what is different! in most cases We always say proceed just in case they slip something in after the fact in the main frame ! Cases where we Don't Reflash is on early model 460xt engines that had the Extra Torque Engine File AS U MAY never get that engine file back! They were very stingy with it!

Of Coarse ,what ever the shop rate is for that job at that shop !do you have a dealer near by? if so I highly recommend you check into it ! yes I was kidding around a bit however I was suggesting that unless you bought the truck used and were u sure of the history then this maybe the case .unless someone pulled a fast one on you! recently at a shop you visited!

Be sure to post the ending to this story Bud! Sad to see your having this issue to start with but will be a relief for everyone ! when its fixed! All ya can do is keep on em about it!

Yup James I Agree with you both ! However its just one more expense for the dealer to have to sent another person to yet another coarse that could be offered on line ! Try getting warrenty out of cummins OR anyone for that mater if you don't got a cummins isx ticket or an mp8 ticket bla bla bla! I just noticed my like dog button is gone owell Barry must hate me or something!

Thanx for posting your fix! Sorry weren't able to help!

Did someone change the ECU when you weren't looking ??? defiantly wrong codes for that engine ! We ran into this last week someone changed an ECU and didn't Reflash the thing kept derateing at 33 psi programed for a WASTE GATED turbo No waste gate on this unit! Reflashed it All is good ! You may want to have the dealer reflash the ECU and see how it is after! May just be the ticket! Worth tring in my mind!

Im with Mack Pro dealing with cummins is like having to deal with Russia and Korea as well as the swedes . to much politics and buck passing!

You said that out loud!

Well at least they wont be in the same spot as the above post for a bit! only one thing to go wrong! I for one will be curious how the above post will plays out the symptoms are similar to the repair we did to an older truck last week which turned out to be a cracked DPF can ! in this case they would likely have to replace the whole thing as its been sort of unitized!

Unfortunately you and the other two or three trucks are the guinea pigs in this situation and all you can do is be patient ! hopfully they will get to the end of the mystery soon and they will find a common failure on all of them for everyone's sake!

Be sure to remove the after cooler and dump the oil out of it preferably steam it out! like Trent said and also spoken go Right back to the air cleaner and check for metal CHANGE the air cleaner. and take every joint apart those little nasty's can hide! and hopfully you don't have to chase the exhast wheel back to the muffler you may have to drill a hole at the lowest point to drain the oil from the exhaust!

7 to ten thou would not be unreasonable!

Yup In the case above we pushed the unit into a regen FIRST and that's when the leaks show up the best the cracks open up and it all becomes apparent!

Some answers to your questions and some things to look for! We did one of these last week it turned out to be the usual crack in the flex pipe (EXHAUST LEAKS) PRE dpf (in part) And Two Cracks in the ASH can one at the DEF doser and one at the flange leaving the ash can! All contributing to lack of heat! The One thing guided D doesn't tell you ( and should) is to check for exhaust leaks or cracks in the DPF BEFORE you run guided D You tend to waste alot of time looking at the screen and doing stupid tests when you should be looking for a physical issue! We sometimes tend to forget the simple shit and rely too heavy on the tecky stuff! But if you are getting oddball nox efficiency codes and doser issues bla bla bla good idea to check further up stream for a physical problem first! before proceeding with the tests !