hicrop10 Posted Sunday at 09:56 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:56 PM I’m restoring my B87 tractor as many of you know.Here’s some pics of the power steering on it.The pump says Vickey vane pump ,the one cylinder says Ross,can anyone tell me what make it is,and where I can get some parts. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76422-need-help/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted Sunday at 10:55 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:55 PM That pump is a Vickers. I would think parts for it are still available or a suitable replacement is. The control valve ? That might be a problem. Are you sure it's a Ross valve ? The cylinder ? would seem a good hydralic place could do something with that. Wouldn't surprise me if a different make control valve would interchange with your's. Reservoir, a newer Nelson wouldn't be a very dificult swap. 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76422-need-help/#findComment-591662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hicrop10 Posted Sunday at 11:40 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 11:40 PM 43 minutes ago, Mark T said: That pump is a Vickers. I would think parts for it are still available or a suitable replacement is. The control valve ? That might be a problem. Are you sure it's a Ross valve ? The cylinder ? would seem a good hydralic place could do something with that. Wouldn't surprise me if a different make control valve would interchange with your's. Reservoir, a newer Nelson wouldn't be a very dificult swap. It says Ross on the cylinder.I have the original paperwork for the truck and it says nothing about the power steering. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76422-need-help/#findComment-591663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hicrop10 Posted Sunday at 11:46 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 11:46 PM I found in the paperwork that it has a Ross Hydraulic system for the power steering. 49 minutes ago, Mark T said: That pump is a Vickers. I would think parts for it are still available or a suitable replacement is. The control valve ? That might be a problem. Are you sure it's a Ross valve ? The cylinder ? would seem a good hydralic place could do something with that. Wouldn't surprise me if a different make control valve would interchange with your's. Reservoir, a newer Nelson wouldn't be a very dificult swap. It says Ross on the cylinder.I have the original paperwork for the truck and it says nothing about the power steering. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76422-need-help/#findComment-591664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Popular Post Mark T Posted Monday at 12:19 AM Solution Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 12:19 AM It looks like a power assist system on it. The pump is a Vickers. That just supplies the system with pressurized oil. The valve in the picture is the control valve, then I'm assuming it has a cylinder attached to the tie rod underneath it. What are you trying to repair on it ? 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76422-need-help/#findComment-591666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PMC Posted Monday at 02:48 AM Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 02:48 AM (edited) That's a fairly simple system to rebuild. The control valve uses standard O-rings. The hydraulic cylinder has a couple cast piston rings like an engine and orings for sealing it. I got my rings from Hastings and am pretty sure i have some extra. Edited Monday at 03:30 AM by PMC 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76422-need-help/#findComment-591670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hicrop10 Posted Monday at 03:52 AM Author Share Posted Monday at 03:52 AM Mark T,I will get some pictures of what I’m looking for.Hopefully I can make it up to the shop tomorrow after the snow stops. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76422-need-help/#findComment-591672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb73lt Posted Tuesday at 02:29 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:29 AM Could it be a Garrison assist system using a Ross piston? The control unit looks like the one I installed on my B73. I had both units rebuilt by a local hydraulic shop, made up the lines myself. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76422-need-help/#findComment-591729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hicrop10 Posted Tuesday at 12:36 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 12:36 PM mattb73lt,how can I tell I don’t see anything that’s says GARRISON ON IT.Will check again when I get back up to it today. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76422-need-help/#findComment-591736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryS Posted Tuesday at 05:11 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:11 PM I thought the valve looked like a Garrison also. Here is a picture of the Garrison I took off the B-61. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76422-need-help/#findComment-591770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hicrop10 Posted Tuesday at 05:33 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 05:33 PM Harry’s,that the exact as what I have.What I need is the threaded nut on the end,it has bad threads.I can use it but would like to have a better one. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76422-need-help/#findComment-591771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mattb73lt Posted Tuesday at 09:10 PM Popular Post Share Posted Tuesday at 09:10 PM That's the same valve body I have as your's and HarryS'. I'll have to look through my paperwork, but I made copies of the installation and plumbing routing from a maintenance manual I borrowed to install it. I'm going off memory, I recall it did say Garrison. As for the Ross unit, like Sheppard, that was a power steering box rather than an add-on assist unit. I've seen some that have a Ross Power Steering logo horn button on various make trucks. I know there's some casting numbers and IN/OUT markings on it, maybe a part or assembly number, but I don't recall seeing Garrison or an ID tag on the valve body. My pump was a Vickers unit I sent out for overhaul that had an integral reservoir bolted on top of the pump. I just went through my photo archives and I took copies of the plumbing from what looks like a Mack maintenance manual. I have a pic of the rebuilt and installed pump. The only picture I have of the valve body was from the donor truck, covered in grease and dirt. But, that picture also shows the steering arm limit stops that I grabbed and installed, too. I do have a picture of it hanging up after I painted it. 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76422-need-help/#findComment-591780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted Wednesday at 12:25 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:25 AM On 2/22/2026 at 4:19 PM, Mark T said: It looks like a power assist system on it. The pump is a Vickers. That just supplies the system with pressurized oil. The valve in the picture is the control valve, then I'm assuming it has a cylinder attached to the tie rod underneath it. What are you trying to repair on it ? I’ve been told recently vickers parts are very available 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76422-need-help/#findComment-591784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryS Posted Wednesday at 04:50 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:50 PM 23 hours ago, hicrop10 said: Harry’s,that the exact as what I have.What I need is the threaded nut on the end,it has bad threads.I can use it but would like to have a better one. I don't know where you would find that part unless someone had a used one. Maybe a machine shop could chase the threads if you can't find one. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76422-need-help/#findComment-591818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mechohaulic Posted yesterday at 12:35 AM Popular Post Share Posted yesterday at 12:35 AM at some point many of these threads really so a person's age!!! these were parts WE changed and never thought twice about. now I read stories regarding """these aren't available any more "!! . another change seems to be ===we repaired these units ; not just replaced. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76422-need-help/#findComment-591837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joey Mack Posted 23 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 23 hours ago I work with parts changers at the city. I will save take off parts that have near new parts so that I can put a piece of equipment back on line fast. The other 2 guys, will order all new and wait without concern and then replace the whole unit, and in some cases the issue is still there. They tell me im wasting my time and I should just spend the money.. I tell them I am a re-builder and a mechanic. they roll their eyes and make smart comments.. they are also 31and 26 years old. The fact that Larry is so meticulous with his build makes me stay tuned to the thread. I appreciate a Mechanic !! 3 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76422-need-help/#findComment-591863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mechohaulic Posted 22 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 22 hours ago totally different world in today's "mechanics" thinking. saw that when at coke , couple of flunkies did nothing/knew nothing. then there's the management with Ideas of::: let equipment stay out of service so I can increase my yearly budget for purchasing new junk ; have seen that attitude also. 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76422-need-help/#findComment-591866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joey Mack Posted 21 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 21 hours ago dumb me. I just realized I posted this on Hicrop's thread.. He too is doing great Mechanic work as well. Obviously highly skilled.. 3 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76422-need-help/#findComment-591876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hicrop10 Posted 15 hours ago Author Share Posted 15 hours ago I don’t know about highly skilled,I grow up around Mack’s and heavy equipment.We had some of the best mechanics around,it was hard not to learn something.Yes both of you are correct with the mechanics today just want to replace the broken let alone why it broke.We had this one old timer that no matter what he was doing he always had the service manual out on the back of the truck. 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76422-need-help/#findComment-591891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago I will open a book in a second.. No pride lost.. Even on the engines and such that I built a bunch of, if I have a brain fart, or just pause and question myself, out comes the book.. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76422-need-help/#findComment-591895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseliner64 Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago I second that Joey...and I'll ask on BMT too!!!.Nobody knows it all and the books are there to teach and remind us sometimes.No shame in that.... Paul 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76422-need-help/#findComment-591898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fjh Posted 14 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 14 hours ago There’s a lot said to experience as well that in which this site provides! Books are a good base line but experiences are true value! 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76422-need-help/#findComment-591900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseliner64 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Yip,nothing beats experience...in any area..... Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/76422-need-help/#findComment-591914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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