Geoff Weeks Posted Saturday at 08:48 PM Share Posted Saturday at 08:48 PM Might want to look at what Apex says about the 6400, "wet liners only" https://www.apexinds.com/tools/ATC6400.html Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75768-300-rebuild/page/8/#findComment-579862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted Saturday at 09:05 PM Share Posted Saturday at 09:05 PM As far as wet liners only goes.... When I did the ENDT 673, i welded beads in the liners, and dressed the 2 dogs with a bastard file, (they had already pulled a couple dozen liners by this point). There are 2 different sets of dogs. So you can check each one to see which one wont score the counter bore. I have also added a shaved washer behind the dogs to get a stronger bite that doesnt allow the tool to pop off the edge of the liner. When welding beads, i suggest opposing vertical welds with spacing between them that is wider then the legs on the puller. High horizontal beads will push the legs inward causing the dogs to slip.. jojo 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75768-300-rebuild/page/8/#findComment-579863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted yesterday at 12:45 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:45 AM glad to see the topic interrupted by "wet/dry" liners !! almost got tempted to ask .NOW which one is this engine dealing with?? dry with honing the sleeve may be removed a number of times : to obtain a perfect fit.all 6 - could be involved. rent/borrow a tool ? 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75768-300-rebuild/page/8/#findComment-579874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted yesterday at 12:59 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:59 AM I believe his is an E-6 2 valve.. Dry liners.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75768-300-rebuild/page/8/#findComment-579876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted yesterday at 01:06 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:06 AM 3 minutes ago, Joey Mack said: I believe his is an E-6 2 valve.. Dry liners.. old school then : had O T C hyd liner remove/ install kit . so many fun things I had. Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75768-300-rebuild/page/8/#findComment-579879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted yesterday at 01:10 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:10 AM Yes.. ive seen them years ago, but never used one. Did the crank have to be out to use it ? Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75768-300-rebuild/page/8/#findComment-579880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechohaulic Posted yesterday at 01:19 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:19 AM Just now, Joey Mack said: Yes.. ive seen them years ago, but never used one. Did the crank have to be out to use it ? NO ;rotate to put crank journal at lowest point. bottom plate was slotted on threaded rod. slanted going in liner leveled out at bottom. covered most of liner bottom. adjustable three legged top. didn't get involved with Mack wet liners.only stand out was the experimental 866 in the FL700. started at Baskin with the DD 8v's , wet liners were the thing. didn't understand how a small o-ring did the job! LOL 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75768-300-rebuild/page/8/#findComment-579882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Mack Posted yesterday at 01:26 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:26 AM I started out on E-7's.. then all the ones afterwards. All Wet Liners.. I was taught to be very particular about setting new liners.. My Mentor Earl made sure I understood why procedures mattered.. Ok... I think im stepping on Larry's post now.. 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75768-300-rebuild/page/8/#findComment-579884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fjh Posted yesterday at 02:19 AM Popular Post Share Posted yesterday at 02:19 AM 46 minutes ago, Joey Mack said: I started out on E-7's.. then all the ones afterwards. All Wet Liners.. I was taught to be very particular about setting new liners.. My Mentor Earl made sure I understood why procedures mattered.. Ok... I think im stepping on Larry's post now.. Maybe a bit! 🤔 my thought is that puller is meant for wet liners if you got time make your own! Even 500 is to much to spend on a job you’re doing once! Just my two bits! 2 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75768-300-rebuild/page/8/#findComment-579887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehummell Posted yesterday at 11:10 AM Share Posted yesterday at 11:10 AM All the Cat engine overhauls in the truck I used a wooden block and a bottom plate and a bottle jack with a long pump handle, so I didn't get an antifreeze shower when I popped up the liners. Wore out threaded rods doing Mack liners I can't remember how bad the sleaves came out of the old 318 DD engines did them too 2 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75768-300-rebuild/page/8/#findComment-579888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fjh Posted yesterday at 01:05 PM Popular Post Share Posted yesterday at 01:05 PM 1 hour ago, davehummell said: All the Cat engine overhauls in the truck I used a wooden block and a bottom plate and a bottle jack with a long pump handle, so I didn't get an antifreeze shower when I popped up the liners. Wore out threaded rods doing Mack liners I can't remember how bad the sleaves came out of the old 318 DD engines did them too yup btdt ! I had that truck almost lifted before the liners started to move with that method😅! in this case it obviously won't be helpful! 2 1 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75768-300-rebuild/page/8/#findComment-579889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Larry, somebody made one for me on a lathe I still have it if you want me to send you a picture of what I’ve got Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75768-300-rebuild/page/8/#findComment-579957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mowerman Posted 14 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 14 hours ago Also forgot to mention it’s easy to add up the pages when where discussions go from ship building to hand painted portraits of prairie dogs haha 4 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75768-300-rebuild/page/8/#findComment-579958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Now if you cast your memories back a week or so and Vlad shared a link to his Lanova motor getting rebuilt The whole block went in the normal smallish shop press to press sleeves Can this motor be flipped over amd just press the sleeves/liners out Me thinks so Paul Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75768-300-rebuild/page/8/#findComment-579970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrsmackpaul Posted 6 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 6 hours ago Something a little like this, turn the block up the otherway A shop press, even you have to buy one is gunna get a lot more use in most work shops than a special liner puller Thanks for the photo Vlad Paul 3 Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75768-300-rebuild/page/8/#findComment-579971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted 25 minutes ago Author Share Posted 25 minutes ago Crank isn't out to be able to press them out that way. Not that I haven't thought of removing crank. I also thought of having block hot tanked, new cam bearings, etc. Be nice and clean for paint!! I could have shop remove and install new liners? Might make a call? Not sure I want to hear the price!!!!! I have a local place that does truck engines. 1 Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75768-300-rebuild/page/8/#findComment-579978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted 17 minutes ago Share Posted 17 minutes ago acid dip sounds like the ticket and cam bearings.. you all ready got it this far why not now you got about brand new engine for much less Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75768-300-rebuild/page/8/#findComment-579979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted 15 minutes ago Share Posted 15 minutes ago Plus you can do your own heads … I was able to use a valve lapping kit Quote Link to comment https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/75768-300-rebuild/page/8/#findComment-579980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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