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[67RModel]

41 minutes ago, Joey Mack said:

So the loaded gun he was reaching for is not enough

I saw no gun loaded or otherwise. 

[Joey Mack]

Well i guess the cops are lying and the news outlets are in on it....  I guess we need to see the other angles recorded by private citizens phones.   Sure hope A.I. isnt going to produce more lies...  

[Geoff Weeks]

I'm old enough, and wise enough, not to believe everything "official" that was said.  Fortunately, although it is a cold comfort, there are many videos of what happened, it will not be easy to "bend the truth" to what you want it to be, no matter which side of the barricade you are on.

 

[Joey Mack]

It truly is sad that he was killed.  I am not celebrating his death.  Law enforcement has a lot of pressure on them to do a great job, coupled with all the hatred for them, this combination is likely why cops are aggressive,  damned if they and damned if they dont...

[other dog]

52 minutes ago, Joey Mack said:

So the loaded gun he was reaching for is not enough ? If I felt I needed to bring a gun to a protest, I would just need to stay home.. I hope ICE leaves M.N. and goes to a city with a Gov. that will welcome them. Memphis seems to have benefited from them. In addition, the feds should cut funding to Minneapolis because of the misuse of the money.   

I still think a lot of it is a distraction to draw attention from the 18 BILLION DOLLARS, last count I heard anyway, 18 BILLION DOLLARS, that the somalis STOLE through their fraudulent activities and pirate ships on the streets. They might have set aside a little of their stolen money, just a few MILLION maybe, to pay these idiots to get out and drive around and block streets and blow their whistles. Then you have some who go above and beyond trying to make some kind of statement to protect the rapists, robbers, murderers, and general low-lifes by trying to run over federal agents or by bringing a loaded weapon with extra magazines to where federal agents are just doing their job, or trying to do their job anyway. I find it very hard to have any sympathy for them when they brought it all on themselves.

[Joey Mack]

GW... i agree with your opinion on trust. As Red as I Am,  I want the truth, not a sensational story.  If the cops screwed up then they need to be held accountable.. Pretty simple

[67RModel]

The way I see it some of these agents are wound too tight and in some cases out looking for confrontation. The fact that they even engage with protesters like this tells you everything you need to know. What that agent did to the woman here was appalling. I bet he feels like a real hero for that one. Then empties a bottle of pepper spray into her face. In the case of Rene good and here if they would have just kept moving and not given these nut jobs so much as a glance there would be no issue but they are out there with a chip on their shoulders beating on their chests. Gonna show these libs who’s boss…..They assaulted a non threatening woman. Pepper sprayed her and the guy. Subdued the guy with no less than 5 men. And executed him. There’s nothing more to it than that. 
 

as I mentioned and cited before. Previous administrations going back to at least Clinton were able to deport sometimes 3 times as many illegals annually as were last year and not one mention of it happening. You would have not even known ICE existed. Something ain’t right here.

[Joey Mack]

Yes, but the internet influencers we have today didnt exist, and the Soros types were few and far between.  Theres is a lot more then just Left and Right dissagreements..  

[Mark T]

Perhaps, and you never heard of crowds gathering at Home Depot when they rounded up 30 or so guys at a clip (without incident) that were there trying to get a days work.  No one ever really had a problem with that.  There's blame to be laid at a lot of feet in all this chaos. Media is one of the biggest instigators . 

[kscarbel2]

3 hours ago, 67RModel said:

Just to be clear what is he spot on about? If Canada makes a trade deal with china then china will eat them alive? Or imposing a 100% tariff on Canadian imports if a deal is made? 

The President said:

If Carney thinks he is going to make Canada a drop-off port for China to send goods and products into the United States, he is sorely mistaken.

China will eat Canada alive, completely devour it, including the destruction of their businesses, social fabric, and general way of life.

The last thing the world needs is to have China take over Canada. It’s NOT going to happen, or even come close to happening!

Having a bit of experience with the Middle Kingdom, I understand the President's message.

[Geoff Weeks]

Humm, China has taken all our Mfg, we have almost none. And you concerned that the same may happen to Canada? Canada is a "big boy", they can assess the conditions for themselves, they don't need the country that willingly outsourced all their Mfg to tell them how to deal with China.  

Not ours to control, and judging by how this admin wants to control everything in N-A I wouldn't do what they want either.

[kscarbel2]

33 minutes ago, 67RModel said:

The way I see it some of these agents are wound too tight and in some cases out looking for confrontation. The fact that they even engage with protesters like this tells you everything you need to know. What that agent did to the woman here was appalling. I bet he feels like a real hero for that one. Then empties a bottle of pepper spray into her face. In the case of Rene good and here if they would have just kept moving and not given these nut jobs so much as a glance there would be no issue but they are out there with a chip on their shoulders beating on their chests. Gonna show these libs who’s boss…..They assaulted a non threatening woman. Pepper sprayed her and the guy. Subdued the guy with no less than 5 men. And executed him. There’s nothing more to it than that. 

as I mentioned and cited before. Previous administrations going back to at least Clinton were able to deport sometimes 3 times as many illegals annually as were last year and not one mention of it happening. You would have not even known ICE existed. Something ain’t right here.

When ICE has protesters in their face on the sidewalk interfering, or using vehicles to interfere, it's not only a problem...........but also a mystery why any American would want to support illegal aliens (who are inherently criminals). Why aren't they supporting ICE agents who are removing various degrees of bad illegal aliens who shouldn't be on US soil?

If you entered the US illegally, you criminally entered the US. It's just that simple. My spouse is a legal immigrant. There was a legal process......we followed it. 

If you entered under temporary protected status (TPS) and that status has been terminated. you are a criminal for remaining (it was always only "temporary"........we simply are unable to take everyone in). 

Things that don't add up (make sense). The BLM protesters were obviously not organic. They were organized and likely paid. Why is it that four years later, our FBI still has not announced who organized that chaos?

Similarly, who is organizing and paying the ICE protesters? Normal people don't participate. As that brother-in-law stated, she had no business being there and should have minded her own business. Speaking of which, people with real jobs have no time anyway to go and face down ICE agents.

[kscarbel2]

4 minutes ago, Geoff Weeks said:

Humm, China has taken all our Mfg, we have almost none. And you concerned that the same may happen to Canada? Canada is a "big boy", they can assess the conditions for themselves, they don't need the country that willingly outsourced all their Mfg to tell them how to deal with China.  

Not ours to control, and judging by how this admin wants to control everything in N-A I wouldn't do what they want either.

Obviously, Trump is making a huge effort to reshore industry back to the US.

The US is a big boy indeed, but Canada is a small player with a huge body. Bluntly speaking, it's unable to be self-sufficient industrially, nor can it control its vast borders militarily against significant, vastly superior foreign powers.

[Joey Mack]

Mr. Trump said that they made a deal with Greenland to build bases there, and he said at no cost to us and to also create the "Golden Dome"..  This came about after going to Davos...  I dont see how these are lies.  

[67RModel]

1 hour ago, kscarbel2 said:

When ICE has protesters in their face on the sidewalk interfering, or using vehicles to interfere, it's not only a problem

In both killings I have seen. The executed were approached by the agents. Not the other way around. If you can’t control yourself in those situations you shouldn’t be there period. These missions should be clandestine in nature and happen sporadically so as to not alert the general public. To send 1000 agents to a place like Minneapolis and advertise/brag about it is asking for this outcome. The guys in both these shootings clearly aren’t trained to diffuse situations. Each case emboldens the next. Like I said something ain’t right here

[Joey Mack]

The Highly trained Minneapolis Police were told by their leaders to not go out there... I wonder... If these Highly trained officers were there, would they have protected the ICE agents as they went to apprehend the Illegal Hard Criminals they were sent to get.  I know I dont want to protect child sex traffickers,  and murderers. How bout' you ?

[Geoff Weeks]

Wise commander, All that would happen with different jurisdictions that the feds themselves will not cooperate with, would be semi-plausible denial on who did the killing, Now it is squarely on the feds. Putting more men with guns would not help the situation it would make it worse. 

 Minn officers were highly trained enough not to make it worse, and from what you are saying, follow orders.  

[Joey Mack]

Fair enough,  but the ICE agents are there to get bad people..... The agitators were paid to go there and start trouble...  

[Geoff Weeks]

Like US citizen they pulled out of his house in his underwear, drove him out for an hour made him stand in the fridged cold, before driving him back? Is that the "dangerous criminal"? only one I see the the Fed officers being criminal.

Was the 5 year old kid a dangerous criminal? 

Stop believing what they say, start watching what they do.

Remember, Obama deported more people (as the right is always quick to point out) without trampling on everyone rights, and did it safely. 

This is about force and cruelty period. 

Is stopping the swearing in of new citizens who have gone through every step, been vetted for more then 10 year, about safety? No, it is about cruelty, you say you want people to come "legally", so do I, but that includes letting them become citizens when they have followed all the rules.

By this admin definition, everyone is a child killer. That just isn't the case. Start opening your eyes to what is happening. 

Law enforcement is loosing credibility by the minute, local law enforcement used to be believed, now that is being eroded by thugs with a badge. It will not be rebuilt anytime soon. Judges no longer accept that they are being told the truth, when they can see for themselves otherwise. Grand juries are refusing to indite based on lies. You wonder why local law doesn't want to be involved in this? 

Make no mistake, this is an occupying force in Minpls and no citizenry or local law enforcement want that. 

[Joey Mack]

GW..  I will bow out.  I appreciate your passion for this topic...  I have my strong beliefs and I would rather not get upset.  I greatly respect your immense knowledge of mechanics. I will also avoid insulting you and those that beleive as you do on BMT.  As we do obviously dissagree, I will respect you as an American,. 

Respectfully, Joey

[kscarbel2]

10 minutes ago, Geoff Weeks said:

Like US citizen they pulled out of his house in his underwear, drove him out for an hour made him stand in the fridged cold, before driving him back? Is that the "dangerous criminal"? only one I see the the Fed officers being criminal.

Was the 5 year old kid a dangerous criminal? 

Stop believing what they say, start watching what they do.

Remember, Obama deported more people (as the right is always quick to point out) without trampling on everyone rights, and did it safely. 

This is about force and cruelty period. 

Is stopping the swearing in of new citizens who have gone through every step, been vetted for more then 10 year, about safety? No, it is about cruelty, you say you want people to come "legally", so do I, but that includes letting them become citizens when they have followed all the rules.

By this admin definition, everyone is a child killer. That just isn't the case. Start opening your eyes to what is happening. 

Law enforcement is loosing credibility by the minute, local law enforcement used to be believed, now that is being eroded by thugs with a badge. It will not be rebuilt anytime soon. Judges no longer accept that they are being told the truth, when they can see for themselves otherwise. Grand juries are refusing to indite based on lies. You wonder why local law doesn't want to be involved in this? 

Make no mistake, this is an occupying force in Minpls and no citizenry or local law enforcement want that. 

 

[kscarbel2]

 

[Geoff Weeks]

5 minutes ago, Joey Mack said:

GW..  I will bow out.  I appreciate your passion for this topic...  I have my strong beliefs and I would rather not get upset.  I greatly respect your immense knowledge of mechanics. I will also avoid insulting you and those that beleive as you do on BMT.  As we do obviously dissagree, I will respect you as an American,. 

Respectfully, Joey

I think that is a wise course for both of us, I will follow your lead,Thank you.

[cruiseliner64]

I greatly admire Geoff and Joey in this tread as it fits right in with one of my late dads greatest sayings..... 

I disagree with what you say but I will defend to my death your right to say it

Iv lived by that statement since my dad thought me it....

Paul

[other dog]

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