Refined Trucker Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Any one have experience upping horsepower on these engines. Replaced my N14 525 Pete with first Mack. Like the truck but not the power. Needing more grunt. Have looked at Rochester Fuel injectors and turbo and Illinois Dyno ecm reflash. Not sure which will give me the most bang for my buck. Or any better options will be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 When you do a tune up replace the injectors with Rochester's stage 2 or 3. The stage 2's made my 427 put out about 35psi of boost but I'll get smoke when I boot it. So a bigger turbo would help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hatcity Posted July 5, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2014 you are comparing apples and orangesThe E-7 is a 11 or 12 liter, N14 is a larger engineNo replacement for displacement 3 Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refined Trucker Posted July 5, 2014 Author Share Posted July 5, 2014 Thanks for input on injectors. Did you have any issues with water temps getting to high after installing injectors? And on the apples and orange deal I'm well aware of that. But I think there is plenty of potential with the right add ons in this little puppy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 No heat issues but u gotta realize you may have 13 years of dead bugs and road debris in your radiator. My exhaust temp in the 460 with the stage 2 injectors will almost touch 1100 on a long hard pull at 80,000. I have digital temp gauge and water will hit 193 on a hot day pulling hard. But I have the biggest turbo I can get on the 460 without having to change the factory plumbing. It will push 47 pounds of boost. I always wanted to put the same turbo on the 427. A engineer from Mack once told me if you have a 460 to download the 427 fuel program into it. He said it'll make huge power but will smoke when you put your foot into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refined Trucker Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share Posted July 7, 2014 Sounds interesting. My rad only has about 30000 since new. But this is a vision so my grille opening is probably smaller than a CH. Just trying to think of all angles before I take the leap. I guess I will just try it and find out. Thanks Dirty Milkman for your 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jklj Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I would be interested in what the upgraded turbo is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 The 427 has a better torque curve and torque rise then the 460.Your CL has a bigger rad then his CX and would handle the extra heat energy your injectors etc. are producing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 That's true. There's a lot of radiator there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rw613 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 just put a bigger radiator from Detroit had to grind cage a little in 2000 cx it works great I would call antram diesl do injectors and turbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bts-4120 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I do not see why a 460 would smoke more with a 427 file. stock they are the same internally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I thought the cams were different...? Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Not sure on cams but he said it has something to do with injection timing or speed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 You don't get more horses without feeding them. Yes the injection timing and metering are different between those HP ratings. Depending on the year of the E-Tech it will have a different turbo. 1 of our 460's smokes like an SOB but pulls good. Nothing wrong with it. Just smokes a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackpro Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 On a 1998/99 to 2001 ETECH, there is no difference between a 427 and a 460 except for the download. Jumping from 300/350/400 up to the 427/460 levels does require off set cam gear key way, turbo and injectors and download. On a 2002 and up CCRS ETECH engine the difference between the 427 and 460 engines is turbo and injectors and download. All CCRS, ASET AI/AC engines use a straight cam gear keyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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